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Re: It's all about Pakistan now - kj - 05-04-2011

davester wrote:
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[quote=kj]...Either way, Obama just did a very republican/conservative/moderate thing. Again. Status quo. kj.

Complete nonsense. What Obama did has nothing to do with where he lies on the political spectrum.
Poppycock, my good fellow! His approval rating with Republicans is skyrocketing. I wonder why? kj.
You have a habit of taking apples and referring to them as oranges. The approval rating among republicans has no bearing on your original statement.
Let me finish the thought then. Why is his approval rating going up with Republicans? Because killing OBL was a very republican thing to do. As was scrapping single payer health insurance, extending Bush's tax cuts to the rich, etc. Bush lite, as others have said. The only way you could be happy with him is if you are a republican, or only care that he's a democrat. kj.

Re: It's all about Pakistan now - kj - 05-04-2011

Grace62 wrote:
kj, prior to the invasion of Iraq, al Qaeda was not operating in Iraq. Not only did they move in after the invasion, but they are now responsible for ongoing instability and violence in that country. If you need to pretend that Bush made the world safer, or that his policies did not lead to vastly increased violence, go ahead. It changes nothing.

I would only disagree slightly with what you are saying now, but that's not even close to what you said before. I would line up the two statements word for word to show you the differences, but I don't need to do that. And the article you posted doesn't back up either statement. But I get it: Bush bad, Obama good. I agree with at least half of that. kj.

Re: It's all about Pakistan now - Carnos Jax - 05-04-2011

kj wrote: Let me finish the thought then. Why is his approval rating going up with Republicans? Because killing OBL was a very republican thing to do. As was scrapping single payer health insurance, extending Bush's tax cuts to the rich, etc. Bush lite, as others have said. The only way you could be happy with him is if you are a republican, or only care that he's a democrat. kj.

Kj, like Dak, you can't deal with the fact that Obama is popular, so you make up reasons to like him, and then go as far as claiming him as your own to the exclusion of others. The vast majority of my friends are Republicans, none of them would agree with the reasons you and others fabricate. During the last election, a small percentage of them voted for Obama because they were sick of how bad a job the Republicans had done for the last several years.

You don't think that the Republican rating has to do with the simple fact that Obama is a more competent president do you?

Re: It's all about Pakistan now - Pam - 05-04-2011

kj wrote:

Let me finish the thought then. Why is his approval rating going up with Republicans? Because killing OBL was a very republican thing to do. As was scrapping single payer health insurance, extending Bush's tax cuts to the rich, etc. Bush lite, as others have said. The only way you could be happy with him is if you are a republican, or only care that he's a democrat. kj.

Republican approval ratings have been going up? Got links? Are you implying the GOP got a boost because of OBL?

As for scrapping public option, extending tax cuts, etc... that is called compromise. Which you'd better steel yourself for as the Republicans are going to have to step up their sacrifices. And btw, Ryan's budget is dropping fast in the ratings.

Re: It's all about Pakistan now - RgrF - 05-05-2011

While Republican approval ratings may or may not have changed, Obama approval ratings have gone up among Republicans. Not that that'll last beyond the next full moon.

Re: It's all about Pakistan now - Black - 05-05-2011

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/us/politics/05poll.html?_r=1&hp
The president’s job approval rating rose 11 points, compared with an 8-point increase for President George W. Bush after the capture of Saddam Hussein in December 2003. Mr. Bush’s bump evaporated within a month.

The increase in Mr. Obama’s ratings came largely from Republicans and independents. Among independents, his approval rating increased 11 points from last month, to 52 percent, while among Republicans it rose 15 points, to 24 percent. Among Democrats, 86 percent supported his job performance, compared with 79 percent in April.




Some fun tidbits here:

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/05/03/Obamas-poll-numbers-bounce-up/UPI-99341304433242/


The largest polling rally in Gallup history occurred in 2001 when President George W. Bush's numbers went from 51 percent before the World Trade Center Attack to 86 percent after it.

The capture of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein sent Bush's poll numbers from 56 percent to 63 percent in 2003, Gallup said.

President George H.W. Bush's poll numbers were very high after Iraqi troops were driven out of Kuwait in early 1991. In 1992, he failed to win a second term.

Re: It's all about Pakistan now - kj - 05-05-2011

This is what I said:

"Why is his approval rating going up with Republicans?"

I posted a link to it earlier. No, I didn't say approval ratings have gone up for republicans. kj.

Re: It's all about Pakistan now - Black - 05-05-2011

kj wrote:
This is what I said:
"Why is his approval rating going up with Republicans?"

Kind of promising, the way this is worded. It seems to imply that it's still rising, rather than just enjoying a little bump from the OBL announcement. How high do you think it will go?

Re: It's all about Pakistan now - kj - 05-05-2011

Carnos Jax wrote:
[quote=kj]Let me finish the thought then. Why is his approval rating going up with Republicans? Because killing OBL was a very republican thing to do. As was scrapping single payer health insurance, extending Bush's tax cuts to the rich, etc. Bush lite, as others have said. The only way you could be happy with him is if you are a republican, or only care that he's a democrat. kj.

Kj, like Dak, you can't deal with the fact that Obama is popular, so you make up reasons to like him, and then go as far as claiming him as your own to the exclusion of others. The vast majority of my friends are Republicans, none of them would agree with the reasons you and others fabricate. During the last election, a small percentage of them voted for Obama because they were sick of how bad a job the Republicans had done for the last several years.

You don't think that the Republican rating has to do with the simple fact that Obama is a more competent president do you?
The only part of your post I understand is the last. In a way, that's probably true. They perceive him as more competent because he's doing what they would want him to do, in the way they want to see it done. I didn't vote at all because they all suck. Yes. They do. kj.

Re: It's all about Pakistan now - Pam - 05-05-2011

kj wrote:
This is what I said:

"Why is his approval rating going up with Republicans?"

I posted a link to it earlier. No, I didn't say approval ratings have gone up for republicans. kj.

Ah, not republican ratings but republicans opinion of Obama. That was not clear.

Now about this business of his actions being a republican thing to do... now I know how the right wants to own actions of that type, wants to manipulate the masses into believing it, but it is not and has never been true. While dems aren't the blustery nation building thinking type, dems will most definitely stand up and defend/protect this country. You can keep the fake partisan bull hockey.