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Re: First time to use Mac the Ripper! Dambit it's slow. - SteveJobs - 05-13-2006
see here is where you COULD have chosen any random topless pic, and I'd have been none the wiser!
Re: First time to use Mac the Ripper! Dambit it's slow. - Racer X - 05-13-2006
I have my integrity, and I fear my wife ;-) Some may recall she is one step below a Black belt in Tae Kwan Do, and does triathlons. She can kick my ass and get away quick on land or water.
Re: First time to use Mac the Ripper! Dambit it's slow. - blusubaru - 05-13-2006
Steve, I'm using a similiar setup as you, but my MTR is always in under 20min. Now, I'll admit I've not tried it with my internal optical drive or with the internal hd. I always use my external 16x and write the data to an external fw400 drive.
iMac 2.0G5 20"
Re: First time to use Mac the Ripper! Dambit it's slow. - SteveJobs - 05-13-2006
that one took 55 minutes!
Re: First time to use Mac the Ripper! Dambit it's slow. - Racer X - 05-13-2006
at some point, if you tell us the brand and model # of the actual offending optical drive, and about the machine in general, we can tell you if that has anything to do with it, or if you have a cursed set-up.
Re: First time to use Mac the Ripper! Dambit it's slow. - Silencio - 05-13-2006
I need to actually time a DVD rip one of these days. I usually just put it in the background and don't even think about it while I do other stuff. I imagine a typical rip job doesn't take more than 15 minutes for me. Dual 2.0GHz PowerMac G5, 4GB RAM, LG GSA-4167B DVD+/-R drive.
Re: First time to use Mac the Ripper! Dambit it's slow. - bangman - 05-14-2006
You need a new computer.
Re: First time to use Mac the Ripper! Dambit it's slow. - SteveJobs - 05-14-2006
I always need a new computer.
I am NOT trying to analyze it, or speed it up. Just a mere observation that if I use the exact SAME setup, MTR is waaaaay slower than DVDBackup.
It's a firewire/case/ NEC 3550A
Re: First time to use Mac the Ripper! Dambit it's slow. - rexrzer - 05-14-2006
Depending on which DVD MTR is RIPping, it just might take 50+ minutes. Most often, however, the latest Beta (R-13D, Rev. 3.0) will RIP anything you throw at it in less than 20 minutes, even on inferior Matsushita optical drives, like in an iMac or a PBook. You have to ask yourself two things: which optical drive do you own, and what DVD are you RIPping?
The latest titles from Sony, Pixar/Disney, Miramax, Paramount, and other manufacturers may have one or more built-in copy protections, like ARCOss, RipGuard, purposely written bad sectors, or 0-duration cells, which make duplication difficult, if not sometimes impossible without using the more sophisticated software suites, like DVD2oneX2.0.4, or DVD Remaster, along with burning software like Toast 7, or Popcorn 1.0.3 or 2. And it is these latest discs, like Fun with Dick & Jane, Hostel, Memoirs of a Geisha, and many others, that require special treatment in order to get righteous backups, that is without blackouts, stuttering, chapter anomalies, false starts and other problems.
The optical drive being used is 1/2 the battle of doing a fast RIP. When I received my new Dual Core 2.3Ghz G5, it happened to have an LG drive in it, with a RIP limit of 10X, which was not acceptable to me, so I replaced it with a Pioneer DVR-110D. Doing that was the best thing possible, as my RIPping speeds, and success, went ballistic compared to the LG drive. Some users also find that having a fast DVD drive on the internal bus of the computer is faster than an external FireWire setup, but this, again, depends on the drive.
Then again, with even the best hardware, a DVD like Dick & Jane will take 50+ minutes, because at about 139MB in that movie, for example, MTR will hit a block of empty cells, or bad sectors--it took some 30 minutes to get through them, as I recall. You might think that MTR has failed, at a point like that, when it's "chewing on" the DVD as written, but be wise, and patient, and let it go. Eventually things will pick up and it will finish.
Now if you're using MTR 2.6.6, there are some DVDs that it has great difficulty with, in fact there are some that can't successfully be RIPped with the last public release.
Those of you who have donated at the ripdifferent.com web site, to the MTR Development Fund, have access to the latest Beta versions of MTR, and they are designed to deal with these troublesome DVDs with the complex copy protections written into them.
Members of the Beta Test Team at ripdifferent.com pretty much dissect each and every problem disc as it is released on DVD. It's quite a stupid game that the purveyors of copy protection play, because there is no DVD yet made that can't be successfully dealt with, no matter what type of copy protection the maker uses. It's just a question of using the right tools for the job, and knowing what to look for in the Video_TS file that MTR generates.
So 3 things really matter in terms of RIPping speed: whether you're dealing with one of the newer DVDs with complex copy protection; the kind of optical drive being used; and you might need a MTR Beta version to successfully RIP some DVDs.B)
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Re: First time to use Mac the Ripper! Dambit it's slow. - Grateful11 - 05-14-2006
I have a little more patience. I just let it run in the background while I'm doing something else. If it takes 45
minutes, so what at least it works and we're lucky to have it.