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Re: What Was Your Favorite VP Debate Line Tonight? - Lux Interior - 10-12-2012
SteveO wrote:
Mine was, "Oh, now you're Jack Kennedy?!"
LMAO.
Yeah, that immediately brought the Bentsen/Quayle debate to mind.
Re: What Was Your Favorite VP Debate Line Tonight? - $tevie - 10-12-2012
Yeah, and Quayle went on to be VP, so not my favorite reference.
Re: What Was Your Favorite VP Debate Line Tonight? - Gutenberg - 10-12-2012
Joe Biden is an old-fashioned pol. He knows his role as vice-president is to jolly things along in public and work the serious stuff backstage, and that's what he does.
A friend who is a litigator in DC often worked in Wilmington arguing cases, and she found herself on the train with Biden often when he was in the Senate, and they talked and got to know each other. Biden is very very good on finance and foreign policy. He is a very smart man. That jolly, bumbling thing is a facade. Joe Biden is no bumbler.
Re: What Was Your Favorite VP Debate Line Tonight? - Speedy - 10-12-2012
"my friend." Very bipartisan.
Re: What Was Your Favorite VP Debate Line Tonight? - mrbigstuff - 10-12-2012
Chakravartin wrote:
Mine was the line that went unsaid:
"So your budget plan goes like this: Romney gives $5 trillion taxpayer dollars to his banker friends and cuts 20% off of the budget at the same time and it doesn't hurt anyone because his fairy godmother waved her magic wand to make the middle class richer and provide every American with a cushy job, health care and a college education. Gotcha."
bingo! I thought there were a lot of missed opportunities for the VP tonight to really lay it out in stark terms and he did not do that. His style is too staccato and he interrupts his own thought process.
Re: What Was Your Favorite VP Debate Line Tonight? - Black - 10-12-2012
For me, I can't remember the wording, but it was in regard to Romney's immediate politicization after the embassy attack-- to the effect of "we're supposed to pull together when we face adversity."
Yeah, what about that?
Re: What Was Your Favorite VP Debate Line Tonight? - SteveO - 10-12-2012
Gutenberg wrote:
Biden is very very good on finance and foreign policy. He is a very smart man. That jolly, bumbling thing is a facade. Joe Biden is no bumbler.
Agreed. I also liked when Martha Raditz tried to say the Joint Chiefs' advice/expertise/recommendations don't matter because they're civilians. Biden nearly stood up in his chair as if to say: "You have NO idea WTF you're talking about."
Rightfully so. His line about "Of course you can find differing opinions in the military," was also spot-on. It was a stupid argument of Raditz to even bring up.
And yes, that Jack Kennedy line hearkened to the Bentsen pa3n of DQ. That's also what was so funny about it to me — I couldn't believe that Ryan would open himself up like that, trying to compare what he and Mittens would do to what JFK did.
I was waiting for Biden to look at the camera and say, "Look, here's how it is. If you have bank accounts in the Caymans, you're gonna benefit from Romney-Ryan. If not, you're basically fsucked. It's that simple."
Re: What Was Your Favorite VP Debate Line Tonight? - Pam - 10-12-2012
mrbigstuff wrote:
[quote=Chakravartin]
Mine was the line that went unsaid:
"So your budget plan goes like this: Romney gives $5 trillion taxpayer dollars to his banker friends and cuts 20% off of the budget at the same time and it doesn't hurt anyone because his fairy godmother waved her magic wand to make the middle class richer and provide every American with a cushy job, health care and a college education. Gotcha."
bingo! I thought there were a lot of missed opportunities for the VP tonight to really lay it out in stark terms and he did not do that. His style is too staccato and he interrupts his own thought process.
More likely, Biden was setting up for the Obama spike.
Re: What Was Your Favorite VP Debate Line Tonight? - $tevie - 10-12-2012
mrbigstuff wrote:
[quote=Chakravartin]
Mine was the line that went unsaid:
"So your budget plan goes like this: Romney gives $5 trillion taxpayer dollars to his banker friends and cuts 20% off of the budget at the same time and it doesn't hurt anyone because his fairy godmother waved her magic wand to make the middle class richer and provide every American with a cushy job, health care and a college education. Gotcha."
bingo! I thought there were a lot of missed opportunities for the VP tonight to really lay it out in stark terms and he did not do that. His style is too staccato and he interrupts his own thought process.
The lies were flying so thick and fast that I think Biden had a lot to do to keep up with them all. He got Ryan pretty good on a number of them and really made it plain that when you scratch the facade of Ryan's platitudes, he's got nothin'. I think Biden did very well to not devolve his points into an attack on Ryan and/or Romney's personal finances.
Re: What Was Your Favorite VP Debate Line Tonight? - BCam - 10-12-2012
Biden knew exactly who he was talking to - the Middle Class Voters.
It was a perfect move to look directly into the camera and say, "Look, folks ... "
It wasn't a debate point - it was direct communications to the target audience.
I think that was a brilliant move on Biden's part.
The stark difference between the two campaigns was made no clearer than in the final "Catholic" question on abortion. Ryan essentially saying we will legislate abortion out of existence because "we" think it is wrong.
Biden said his being a Catholic requires him, on moral and religious grounds, to be against abortion, but that he has no right to dictate that morality upon other Americans.
Worst gaff of the night - Ryan bringing up the family in Mass. with two badly injured children in a car accident. He didn't know that Biden lost his wife and baby daughter in a car crash? Either really stupid, or really callous.