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Re: Children, don't worry! Santa Claus is white. - Chakravartin - 12-13-2013
Lemon Drop wrote:
What are the Icelandic and Siberian versions?
That's where the reindeer and red/white outfits came from.
Here's a neat take on how they got tied in (not necessary truthful,but fun to consider):
http://news.yahoo.com/magic-mushrooms-may-explain-santa-flying-reindeer-210334389.html
The elves are supposedly also Icelandic in origin.
Re: Children, don't worry! Santa Claus is white. - Lemon Drop - 12-13-2013
Interesting! Hmmmmm.....
Here's the Slate piece they were discussing on Fox, by Aisha Harris. And a great comment about it:
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/holidays/2013/12/santa_claus_an_old_white_man_not_anymore_meet_santa_the_penguin_a_new_christmas.html
"What? There's no such thing as a BLACK Santa Claus.
Of course they used to say the same thing about cowboys, astronauts, Olympic ice skaters, quarterbacks, executives, astrophysicists, opera singers, people sitting at a Woolworth lunch counter, Barbie dolls, GI Joes, news anchors, brain surgeons, and US Presidents."
Re: Children, don't worry! Santa Claus is white. - DeusxMac - 12-13-2013
Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=Chakravartin]
Santa is primarily Icelandic, Siberian and Turkish by way of the Dutch with a little touch of good old 20th century American Coca Cola advertising. I'd give her that one. He might be tan, but he's not black. That's Zwarte Piet or the Krampus. Easy mistake to make.
Jesus, if he existed, was probably a little semitic guy. Otherwise, I'd expect there to be a few passages in the bible mentioning how weird he looked and how easily he got sunburn.
I know about the... the Russian Babushka
Doesn't Babushka just mean grandmother?
Re: Children, don't worry! Santa Claus is white. - eustacetilley - 12-13-2013
DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
[quote=Chakravartin]
Santa is primarily Icelandic, Siberian and Turkish by way of the Dutch with a little touch of good old 20th century American Coca Cola advertising. I'd give her that one. He might be tan, but he's not black. That's Zwarte Piet or the Krampus. Easy mistake to make.
Jesus, if he existed, was probably a little semitic guy. Otherwise, I'd expect there to be a few passages in the bible mentioning how weird he looked and how easily he got sunburn.
I know about the... the Russian Babushka
Doesn't Babushka just mean grandmother?
Dedushka Moroz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ded_Moroz
Eustace
Re: Children, don't worry! Santa Claus is white. - Speedy - 12-13-2013
Megyn got the night off from her show with another Fauxy blonde filling in. Roger Ailes was probably giving her a spanking.
Re: Children, don't worry! Santa Claus is white. - Lemon Drop - 12-13-2013
DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
[quote=Chakravartin]
Santa is primarily Icelandic, Siberian and Turkish by way of the Dutch with a little touch of good old 20th century American Coca Cola advertising. I'd give her that one. He might be tan, but he's not black. That's Zwarte Piet or the Krampus. Easy mistake to make.
Jesus, if he existed, was probably a little semitic guy. Otherwise, I'd expect there to be a few passages in the bible mentioning how weird he looked and how easily he got sunburn.
I know about the... the Russian Babushka
Doesn't Babushka just mean grandmother?
It does, and there is a Russian Christmas tradition for children around that:
"In Russia, it is believed that an elderly woman named Babouschka purposely gave the wise men wrong directions to Bethlehem so that they couldn't find Jesus. Later, she felt remorseful, but could not find the men to undo the damage. To this day, on January 5, Babouschka visits Russian children leaving gifts at their bedsides in the hope that one of them is the baby Jesus and she will be forgiven."
Re: Children, don't worry! Santa Claus is white. - Lemon Drop - 12-13-2013
Stewart nailed it.
Jon Stewart hit back: "Who are you actually talking to?"
He tried to imagine the kid Kelly was addressing: "Sophisticated enough to be watching a news channel at 10 o'clock at night, yet innocent enough to still believe Santa Claus is real, yet racist enough to be freaked out if he isn't white."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/13/jon-stewart-megyn-kelly-s_n_4440054.html
Re: Children, don't worry! Santa Claus is white. - davester - 12-14-2013
I think the big takeaway here that everybody is missing is that Megyn Kelly actually believes there is a Santa Claus.
Re: Children, don't worry! Santa Claus is white. - Lemon Drop - 12-14-2013
Her scripted on air excuse was that she was kidding. And that people criticizing her bizarre and stupid comments are just race-baiting meanies who don't like Fox News employees. (oh, the irony)
She did however acknowledge that she got it wrong about Jesus.
The problem is that she advertises herself regularly as a "straight journalist", not a talk show host. It's just another reason (if anyone needed one, which they shouldn't) not to take this woman, her show, or her network seriously.
Re: Children, don't worry! Santa Claus is white. - Chakravartin - 12-14-2013
Jon Stewart fights boredom with the subject:
http://jezebel.com/jon-stewarts-megyn-kelly-takedown-is-so-so-good-1482648941
Second slot's weird. Sliced and diced. Looks like someone at Comedy Central freaked out and cut out all the Jesus stuff.