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Re: Fear mounts that ebola outbreak will make nation turn to science - Acer - 10-18-2014
decay wrote:
Passing along from a friend who works in health care:
A little nursing education about viruses and the panic instilled by the media regarding Ebola: In 2012-2013 influenza (the flu) and pneumonia activity exceeded the epidemic threshold for 13 weeks. 9.9% of all deaths were attributed to pneumonia and influenza in 2012-2013. 149 pediatric deaths were attributed to pneumonia and influenza during that same year. Influenza has no cure and it kills people. It's also spread much more easily than Ebola.
In 2010 there were an estimated 15,529 deaths caused by AIDS in the U.S. In that same year there were approximately 1,155,792 people living with a diagnosis of AIDS in the U.S. AIDS is caused by HIV, which has no cure and kills people.
There are 3 confirmed cases of Ebola in the United States. It has no cure and kills people.
How about we put things into perspective and do a little research? I'm sorry to be the one that lets you in on this little secret, but there will always be a non-curable virus threatening the existence of man. Get over it.
All of this information was gathered from the CDC.
I appreciate your point and agree that the threat is overblown in the US, but you are comparing statistics from the end of the flu epidemic with the beginning of the current outbreak. How many people got ill and died in the first month of the flu?
Re: Fear mounts that ebola outbreak will make nation turn to science - Speedy - 10-18-2014
But it makes such good cable TV. FUD sells, especially after the two health care workers got infected and one flew back from Cleveland. People are tired of the election advertising/news and the war with ISIL doesn't seem popular so this human interest story with the flashing ambulance lights and young nurses and hospital screw-ups is just the ticket All this while the really, really big and tragic story is happening in west Africa. Where Africans live, and die; like cable news and its audiences care one lick.
Re: Fear mounts that ebola outbreak will make nation turn to science - Grateful11 - 10-18-2014
Racer X wrote:
[quote=Grateful11]
Theoretically there is no "outbreak" of Ebola in the US. We have 2 nurses that contracted Ebola from a guy
that is now dead. They contracted it most liked because someone screwed on procedures of handling bodily fluids.
Sweet jeebus! Will people quit parroting the idiot news outlets!!!!!!!
The first case WAS NOT A NURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
she is a nurses aid, which is basically a janitor for humans. I'm not demeaning her, but there are 6 registered nurses in my family, with a total of over 200 years experience combined. Mom worked as an RN for 53 years.
I really doubt she knew the risks, nor was she likely trained in contaminated bodily fluid handling.
Where did I say the first case WAS A NURSE ? or are you just saying that because she was an Aid
and not a full blown Nurse and not fit for the title of nurse? If that's what you're saying then you are demeaning her.
The last time I checked you can't become a Nurses Aid over night, maybe in Texas but not other places.
Why would you doubt she knew the risks? If she's watched 5 minutes of news in the last month she should have,
at the very least, seen videos of workers completely suited up like hazmat workers in Africa, that alone is
enough to tell anyone what kind stuff they would be dealing with. I agree that she probably wasn't trained correctly.
Re: Fear mounts that ebola outbreak will make nation turn to science - Grateful11 - 10-18-2014
I never watch Faux News, unless it happens to be on a TV in a business I might happen to be in and that's
about as much of it as I can handle, so when I saw this posted on Facebook I was surprised at the amount
of real info it contained.
http://youtu.be/1qj4X0MsQjM
Re: Fear mounts that ebola outbreak will make nation turn to science - Spock - 10-18-2014
"a belief in science leads to a belief in math, which in turn fosters a dangerous dependence on facts.”
Can't possibly have that, can we.
Re: Fear mounts that ebola outbreak will make nation turn to science - Black - 10-18-2014
Grateful11 wrote:Think he's started shopping his resume around yet?
I never watch Faux News, unless it happens to be on a TV in a business I might happen to be in and that's
about as much of it as I can handle, so when I saw this posted on Facebook I was surprised at the amount
of real info it contained.
http://youtu.be/1qj4X0MsQjM
Re: Fear mounts that ebola outbreak will make nation turn to science - Grateful11 - 10-18-2014
Black wrote:Think he's started shopping his resume around yet?
[quote=Grateful11]
I never watch Faux News, unless it happens to be on a TV in a business I might happen to be in and that's
about as much of it as I can handle, so when I saw this posted on Facebook I was surprised at the amount
of real info it contained.
http://youtu.be/1qj4X0MsQjM
Probably.
Re: Fear mounts that ebola outbreak will make nation turn to science - Black - 10-18-2014
I was rubbing elbows with hospital administrator types at an event this morning and learned that one area hospital that announced it was one of the identified "prepared" centers for ebola quarantine/treatment immediately saw their patient visits drop by a large percentage (60% if I recall correctly.)
So much for the idea expressed in a previous thread that hospitals are clamoring to take ebola patients because of greed or publicity.
Re: Fear mounts that ebola outbreak will make nation turn to science - max - 10-18-2014
Spock wrote:
"a belief in science leads to a belief in math, which in turn fosters a dangerous dependence on facts.”
Can't possibly have that, can we.
There you go again with your conspiracy theories....
Re: Fear mounts that ebola outbreak will make nation turn to science - eustacetilley - 10-18-2014
Black wrote:
[quote=eustacetilley]
There is a lot of Money to be made in this.
I'm not talking about Real Science, I'm talking about all that other Crap.
...
Science is hard. It's perhaps the hardest hard that we have. But any Crackpot can grab some scrap of justification from "Popular Science", or Fox, to make a Prophet.
¬Eustace
Rumor has it that your posts may be moving to a paid subscription model soon?
It's a possibility. It just depends on how much I can afford per month.
¬Eustace