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Re: Top dog in Republican Party if DJT loses? - samintx - 07-26-2020
There are several on that list I would not resume my Republicanhood for .......... short list for me to swallow:banghead:
Lemon Drop wrote:
WaPo's list for 2024 contenders. This assumes a Trump loss in 2020. The linked article explains the thinking behind each potential candidate. Josh Hawley makes a lot of sense, I also think Nikki Haley is a good guess. Tom Cotton makes me want to throw up therefore he's probably very beloved by Conservatives.
POSITION POTENTIAL CANDIDATE
1. Josh Hawley
2. (TIE) Tom Cotton
2. (TIE) Nikki Haley
4. Mike Pence
5. Donald Trump Jr.
6. Marco Rubio
7. Mike Pompeo
8. Ted Cruz
9. Tim Scott
10. (TIE) Rick Scott
10. (TIE) Elise Stefanik
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/26/trump-looks-down-out-2024-gop-field-is-forming/?arc404=true
Re: Top dog in Republican Party if DJT loses? - Ombligo - 07-26-2020
samintx wrote:
There are several on that list I would not resume my Republicanhood for .......... short list for me to swallow:banghead:
No judgement, but I am curious.Which ones would you resume for?
Re: Top dog in Republican Party if DJT loses? - DeusxMac - 07-26-2020
Henry Olsen, a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, studies and provides commentary on American politics.
"The Ethics and Public Policy Center (EPPC) is a conservative Washington, D.C.-based think tank and advocacy group. Founded in 1976, the group describes itself as 'dedicated to applying the Judeo-Christian moral tradition to critical issues of public policy', and advocacy of founding principles such as the rule of law."
"The EPPC was founded in 1976 by Ernest W. Lefever...""...the allegation made by [his] brothers that Ernest Lefever had supported William Shockley's views that 'blacks were genetically inferior'."
Re: Top dog in Republican Party if DJT loses? - RgrF - 07-26-2020
That assumes there will be any pieces left to pick up. The way things are trending a blue wave could well destroy what is left of the Republican Party. That sort of outcome would send party long game schemers and planners into a reorganization that would come out in a way that would eliminate the cancel politics they now live with.
They always have money and their driven intent to make the public purse private will insure they won't fade away. If they have to sit through a Dem administration or two - so what, they've done that before. The Nixon debacle should have kneecapped them as a political party - it didn't. This Trump debacle won't either.
This all assumes we'll even have a country left to fight over, at this point that's not a given.
Re: Top dog in Republican Party if DJT loses? - Rolando - 07-26-2020
I think it depends on how well Biden is doing. If he's doing great, the Repugs will put up a "up next" sacrificial candidate. Think Bob Dole, Walter Mondale. If that's the Case, I would expect Pence to be nominee.
If the enomy is still in recovery mode, I expect another demagogue to come along!
Re: Top dog in Republican Party if DJT loses? - vision63 - 07-26-2020
Steve G. wrote:
some Tea-Party type jerk from a backwards solid red state
They were there before Trump, they will be there after him.
Bet. They're going to be in disarray.
Re: Top dog in Republican Party if DJT loses? - Lemon Drop - 07-26-2020
deckeda wrote:
After seeing that list I just HAD to see where it came from. Henry Olsen, opinion writer. He's more whackadoodle than reality, and that's not in any way Washington Post's "list" of serious contenders.
"Also receiving votes, Tucker Carlson ... " an so on.
Henry Olsen is an intelligent, thoughtful conservative writer with a law degree from the Univ. of Chicago. I just glanced through his past 8-9 columns in the Post (and yes, this list was published by the Washington Post, his employer) and they are reasonable to the point of being dull by pundit standards.
He is well-regarded by colleagues across the political spectrum.
I'm sure he's written many things I don't like...he's on the other side, after all, but for some reason the nation's top political newspaper employs him as a political columnist. I guess they see something in his writing. He's been quite good with his election predictions in the past.
Re: Top dog in Republican Party if DJT loses? - numbered - 07-26-2020
I think the list Lemon posted is the list that requires focus. For several years Cotton and Hawley have been touted as Trump-like, but with less drama. They have the same crazy, but packaged in a less narcissistic wrapper. They are both well educated, both come from states that are MAGA, and have both taken steps to make the donor class happy.
I think they are more frightening than Trump because this packaging obscures the crazy for lower information types.
Haley is the choice of the more mainstream GOP-can't-quit-Trump-and-she-will-bring-the-women-back types. These folks hope for a post Trump GOP renewal, but are so strongly on the team they will vote for Trump. (David Frum, another GOP apostate, uses the following phrase on his Twitter: "When this is all over, nobody will admit to ever having supported it.") Haley will be one of those.
Re: Top dog in Republican Party if DJT loses? - vision63 - 07-26-2020
numbered wrote:
I think the list Lemon posted is the list that requires focus. For several years Cotton and Hawley have been touted as Trump-like, but with less drama. They have the same crazy, but packaged in a less narcissistic wrapper. They are both well educated, both come from states that are MAGA, and have both taken steps to make the donor class happy.
I think they are more frightening than Trump because this packaging obscures the crazy for lower information types.
Haley is the choice of the more mainstream GOP-can't-quit-Trump-and-she-will-bring-the-women-back types. These folks hope for a post Trump GOP renewal, but are so strongly on the team they will vote for Trump. (David Frum, another GOP apostate, uses the following phrase on his Twitter: "When this is all over, nobody will admit to ever having supported it.") Haley will be one of those.
That's certainly a frightening prospect.
Re: Top dog in Republican Party if DJT loses? - Lemon Drop - 07-26-2020
vision63 wrote:
[quote=numbered]
I think the list Lemon posted is the list that requires focus. For several years Cotton and Hawley have been touted as Trump-like, but with less drama. They have the same crazy, but packaged in a less narcissistic wrapper. They are both well educated, both come from states that are MAGA, and have both taken steps to make the donor class happy.
I think they are more frightening than Trump because this packaging obscures the crazy for lower information types.
Haley is the choice of the more mainstream GOP-can't-quit-Trump-and-she-will-bring-the-women-back types. These folks hope for a post Trump GOP renewal, but are so strongly on the team they will vote for Trump. (David Frum, another GOP apostate, uses the following phrase on his Twitter: "When this is all over, nobody will admit to ever having supported it.") Haley will be one of those.
That's certainly a frightening prospect.
Regardless of her prospects, Haley has played it brilliantly. She supported Trump enough to be considered a GOP team player, but separated herself from some of his more egregious behavior. And quit on her own terms, before he got mad and fired her. She has one of those compelling life stories that draw voters in. Dems beware if Haley gets on the top ticket.