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Re: NYT: "Seventeen Percent of Voters Blame Biden for the End of Roe" - Ted King - 05-15-2024
pdq wrote:
Yeah - it's a blast from the (recent) past, when Repubs in the House and Senate blocked everything Obama tried to do, and then said complained he didn't get anything done.
There are suckers born every minute.
Ignorance makes suckers out of us. In the past, I've been suckered into getting less than I paid for because I didn't take the time to inform myself. Even if a person isn't lazy they can't know everything and sometimes you just have to take a leap because of some constraints. But there is nothing here that requires a leap because of constraints. As Lux said, this is willful ignorance. It just aggravates me that that willful ignorance from some abortion supporters in swing states may cause them to not vote for Biden. Numbskulls.
Re: NYT: "Seventeen Percent of Voters Blame Biden for the End of Roe" - sekker - 05-15-2024
Ted King wrote:
[quote=Mr645]
Who was president when it was overturned?
miley-laughing001:
Yep, right on cue!
Re: NYT: "Seventeen Percent of Voters Blame Biden for the End of Roe" - $tevie - 05-15-2024
Speedy wrote:
They won’t vote, anyway.
I listened to Ron Brownstein of The Atlantic on the "Fast Politics" podcast with Molly Jong-Fast last night. He was discussing the Trump v Biden polls and he said that many of the people in these polls rarely or never vote. They are registered to vote but don't bother. So they like expounding their opinions, but not enough to get off their duffs and do something about them.
I think these sorts of voters were galvanized in 2016 post-Black-President but then went back to being too lazy to bother in 2020. But they still skew the polls and the media goes bonkers with it.
Let's have Wonkette opine on this NYT poll:
But the scary stuff is far less scary once you step away from the breathless headline and start looking at the actual poll results, to say nothing of potential issues with the poll’s methodology.https://www.wonkette.com/p/that-new-york-times-poll-is-such
So yeah, let’s do that, shall we?
Re: NYT: "Seventeen Percent of Voters Blame Biden for the End of Roe" - special - 05-15-2024
Mr645 wrote:
Who was president when it was overturned?
Does your brain work at all?
Re: NYT: "Seventeen Percent of Voters Blame Biden for the End of Roe" - JoeH - 05-15-2024
special wrote:
[quote=Mr645]
Who was president when it was overturned?
Does your brain work at all?
I assume that is a rhetorical question, we all know the answer.
Re: NYT: "Seventeen Percent of Voters Blame Biden for the End of Roe" - Ted King - 05-15-2024
$tevie wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
They won’t vote, anyway.
I listened to Ron Brownstein of The Atlantic on the "Fast Politics" podcast with Molly Jong-Fast last night. He was discussing the Trump v Biden polls and he said that many of the people in these polls rarely or never vote. They are registered to vote but don't bother. So they like expounding their opinions, but not enough to get off their duffs and do something about them.
I think these sorts of voters were galvanized in 2016 post-Black-President but then went back to being too lazy to bother in 2020. But they still skew the polls and the media goes bonkers with it.
Let's have Wonkette opine on this NYT poll:
But the scary stuff is far less scary once you step away from the breathless headline and start looking at the actual poll results, to say nothing of potential issues with the poll’s methodology.https://www.wonkette.com/p/that-new-york-times-poll-is-such
So yeah, let’s do that, shall we?
I don't watch Morning Joe on MSNBC much but this morning Joe was ranting (surprise) on about the terrible methodology of Siena polls. They showed tweets of people who know how polls work and said things like that they called people voters who didn't vote in the last two elections and even some that aren't even registered to vote. Don't know how valid those concerns are but it's certainly enough that if I had seen that before I put up the OP, I wouldn't have put up the OP.
Re: NYT: "Seventeen Percent of Voters Blame Biden for the End of Roe" - $tevie - 05-16-2024
Ted King wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
[quote=Speedy]
They won’t vote, anyway.
I listened to Ron Brownstein of The Atlantic on the "Fast Politics" podcast with Molly Jong-Fast last night. He was discussing the Trump v Biden polls and he said that many of the people in these polls rarely or never vote. They are registered to vote but don't bother. So they like expounding their opinions, but not enough to get off their duffs and do something about them.
I think these sorts of voters were galvanized in 2016 post-Black-President but then went back to being too lazy to bother in 2020. But they still skew the polls and the media goes bonkers with it.
Let's have Wonkette opine on this NYT poll:
But the scary stuff is far less scary once you step away from the breathless headline and start looking at the actual poll results, to say nothing of potential issues with the poll’s methodology.https://www.wonkette.com/p/that-new-york-times-poll-is-such
So yeah, let’s do that, shall we?
I don't watch Morning Joe on MSNBC much but this morning Joe was ranting (surprise) on about the terrible methodology of Siena polls. They showed tweets of people who know how polls work and said things like that they called people voters who didn't vote in the last two elections and even some that aren't even registered to vote. Don't know how valid those concerns are but it's certainly enough that if I had seen that before I put up the OP, I wouldn't have put up the OP.
It is probably true that seventeen percent of
Re: NYT: "Seventeen Percent of Voters Blame Biden for the End of Roe" - zachdog - 05-16-2024
NYT is blather these days.