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Re: Camera Based Autopilot Fails Wile E. Coyote Test - special - 03-18-2025
Bill in NC wrote:
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yes, I know lidar was expensive when tesla first came in the scene.
but what's their excuse now?
Elon
Re: Camera Based Autopilot Fails Wile E. Coyote Test - RAMd®d - 03-18-2025
Isn't it supposed to be better than a human driver?
I keep hearing arguments that there would be less accidents overall if every car had Tesla tech.
This.
What I didn't understand is if Rober was testing Tesla's Autopilot against itself or against him.
It didn't seem like it was the latter.
This would suggest that the ADAS system detected the collision but too late and disengaged the system instead of applying the brakes.
If that's true, that's heinous.
I assume Autopilot would disengage if the driver hit the brakes, early on.
If Autopilot disengaged at the 'last second' because it didn't brake in time, then the driver wasn't paying appropriate attention, and assumed AP would handle it.
Until it didn't.
Re: Camera Based Autopilot Fails Wile E. Coyote Test - special - 03-18-2025
here is another POV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umR89o-xFHU
Re: Camera Based Autopilot Fails Wile E. Coyote Test - N-OS X-tasy! - 03-19-2025
Meep meep.
Re: Camera Based Autopilot Fails Wile E. Coyote Test - kj - 03-19-2025
Is that something the tesla needs to be able to do? There is a universe of things it can’t do, so why does it need to understand optical illusions? I’ve never in my life seen or heard of fake tunnels with actual roads leading to them.
Re: Camera Based Autopilot Fails Wile E. Coyote Test - special - 03-19-2025
Tunnels? probably not, that's a stretch.
Most other cases are valid real world scenarios.
Re: Camera Based Autopilot Fails Wile E. Coyote Test - Tiangou - 03-19-2025
kj wrote:
Is that something the tesla needs to be able to do? There is a universe of things it can’t do, so why does it need to understand optical illusions? I’ve never in my life seen or heard of fake tunnels with actual roads leading to them.
Cameras lack depth perception.
Thus, the “dead kid” in the rain and fog tests.
The coyote test was just icing.
Without Lidar or RADAR, Teslas should not have autonomous driving.
Re: Camera Based Autopilot Fails Wile E. Coyote Test - kj - 03-21-2025
I’ll give you rain and fog, but cameras can have depth perception and the coyote thing is dung on the cake.
Re: Camera Based Autopilot Fails Wile E. Coyote Test - Tiangou - 03-21-2025
kj wrote:
I’ll give you rain and fog, but cameras can have depth perception and the coyote thing is dung on the cake.
Literally, video cameras cannot have "depth perception."
Re: Camera Based Autopilot Fails Wile E. Coyote Test - Gareth - 03-21-2025
Tiangou wrote:
[quote=kj]
I’ll give you rain and fog, but cameras can have depth perception and the coyote thing is dung on the cake.
Literally, video cameras cannot have "depth perception."
A single camera, no, but doesn't Tesla use multiple cameras? Granted, they seem to be more for wide and telephoto, but presumably software can still get depth perception info from that. We humans have two "cameras" (eyes) and have depth perception. Cover one eye, and your depth perception goes away.