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Re: Sony Blows a Major Wad of Cash on a Lousy Promo - N-OS X-tasy! - 09-23-2008
Will Collier wrote:
[quote=Mike Sellers]
Remember, this was a technology that people were supposed to rush out and buy after Blu-ray won the HD format battle with HD-DVD.
Another prediction that Blu-ray player prices would drop below $250 by Thanksgiving was judged three months early after one model hit $249.47 (with a rebate). How low can prices go for the players? This morning, another reader pointed us to news that models by Sony and Samsung are selling for less than $200, including shipping.
Uhhh, has it occurred to anyone that the reason Blu-ray disks haven't taken off is because they still cost twice as much as a regular DVD? Who cares how cheap the player gets?
Bingo. Sony figured that once they finally achieved the dream of format monopoly after all those failures, they'd be able to name their own price and watch the money roll in.
Didn't quite work out that way.
Sony sells players, not movies (well, they sell movies too, but no one could accuse them of having a monopoly there). Prices are dropping on players; it's movie pricing that people seem to consistently (and incorrectly) gripe about. I recently purchased The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, Independence Day, and Men in Black, all for $15 each. I picked up Pixar's Cars and Ratatouille earlier this year for $12 each. I picked up each of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies for $15 or less each. All big name titles, all for less than a new day and date DVD. Many of the Blu-Ray discs in my collection were purchased for $10.
Re: Sony Blows a Major Wad of Cash on a Lousy Promo - N-OS X-tasy! - 09-23-2008
Seacrest wrote: Blu-Ray is perceived by most as 1.) a slight incremental improvement over DVD (compare and contrast with VHD -> DVD) and 2.) yet another "interim" format that the PTB want us to pay big bucks for, which will be eclipsed by a downloadable or streamable format soon enough.
1. Anyone who has watched a Blu-Ray (or HD-DVD) disc on an HDTV knows otherwise.
2. Quite possible, but I believe we're a ways off still from being able to download 50 GB movies in an amount of time that is short enough and convenient enough to compete with selecting a disc off the shelf and playing it, or even bringing a movie home from the video store.
Blu-Ray is probably the last home movie media format that will be successful, but online downloads are not viable enough yet to cause BD to fail in the marketplace.
Re: Sony Blows a Major Wad of Cash on a Lousy Promo - vision63 - 09-24-2008
Blu-Ray is nicer but the experience is negligible because the films still look fine via regular DVD. The total experience in my opinion is about 10 percent nicer in my opinion. Watching "300" on my PSP was just as enjoyable as watching it on Blu-Ray. I might be too old to be too dazzled.
Re: Sony Blows a Major Wad of Cash on a Lousy Promo - MacMagus - 09-24-2008
> > Blu-Ray is perceived by most as
> > 1.) a slight incremental improvement over DVD
>
> Anyone who has watched a Blu-Ray (or HD-DVD)
> disc on an HDTV knows otherwise.
I have a high def tv. I get HD broadcasts. I have an upscaling DVD player. I enjoy a wide variety of content at 480i, 480p, 720p and 1080i. Do I need more expensive excuses to sit in front of the boob tube?
It's like having a giant bag of Cool Ranch Doritos and someone says, "Hey! You know, for only twice as much as you paid for those Doritos you can have a small bag of Cooler Ranch Doritos, too! They're even better than what you've got!!"
And my response is, "Thanks, but this bag of Doritos is plenty for now."
Re: Sony Blows a Major Wad of Cash on a Lousy Promo - N-OS X-tasy! - 09-24-2008
MacMagus wrote:
> > Blu-Ray is perceived by most as
> > 1.) a slight incremental improvement over DVD
>
> Anyone who has watched a Blu-Ray (or HD-DVD)
> disc on an HDTV knows otherwise.
I have a high def tv. I get HD broadcasts. I have an upscaling DVD player. I enjoy a wide variety of content at 480i, 480p, 720p and 1080i. Do I need more expensive excuses to sit in front of the boob tube?
It's like having a giant bag of Cool Ranch Doritos and someone says, "Hey! You know, for only twice as much as you paid for those Doritos you can have a small bag of Cooler Ranch Doritos, too! They're even better than what you've got!!"
And my response is, "Thanks, but this bag of Doritos is plenty for now."
Not sure where you meant to go with your response. My statement indicated that hi-def media (not just Blu-Ray) provide more than "an incremental improvement" over DVD; your response, the intent of which seems to be to dispute my statement, went on to detail the numerous sources of hi-def content you enjoy while failing to address the point I made in my comment.
I have an HDTV. I receive HD broadcasts (free local channels, not cable programming), but I don't watch TV very often. I do enjoy watching movies in the comfort of my own home, in the best possible quality; Blu-Ray is ideal for this. I'm paying no more for the BD discs I buy now than I did for the DVDs I purchased a few years ago. Because Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible with DVDs, I'm able to continue to enjoy my existing DVD library; as titles become available in BD I'm free to decide whether I want to upgrade or keep the DVD version I currently own. Call me dense, but I don't see a downside here.
For those whom regular DVD is good enough, terrific. Stick with it. DVD will be around for a long while still.
(BTW, image quality of upconverted 480p content is NOT as good as properly done HD, no matter how desperately some people want to believe it is.)
Re: Sony Blows a Major Wad of Cash on a Lousy Promo - MacMagus - 09-25-2008
N-OS X-tasy! wrote:
Not sure where you meant to go with your response.... your response, the intent of which seems to be to dispute my statement, went on to detail the numerous sources of hi-def content you enjoy while failing to address the point I made in my comment.
Dude!
I don't care that you don't mind paying a premium for an extra bag of Cooler Ranch.
I don't need the extra calories.