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Re: major ORGANsm?!. . .is ORGANic food healthier. . .? - RAMd®d - 07-29-2009
pRICE and Z, that makes a lot of sense.
Thankee.
Re: major ORGANsm?!. . .is ORGANic food healthier. . .? - Z - 07-29-2009
Not a problem, neighboreeno.
I don't remember where you are in the state other than somewhere to the NW, but for some local or localish options, check here http://www.extension.iastate.edu/Publications/PM1693.pdf
I would think that there is an updated version floating about somewhere, or you could contact the authors.
Re: major ORGANsm?!. . .is ORGANic food healthier. . .? - Marc Anthony - 07-29-2009
From the article:
"Organic food has no nutritional or health benefits over ordinary food, according to a major study published Wednesday."
This is BS. There is a great deal of health relevance to be found in a comparison of pesticide content. Pesticide-free is better for you. Organic wins.
Re: major ORGANsm?!. . .is ORGANic food healthier. . .? - August West - 07-29-2009
I shop at the farmer's market every week during the season and have for the past 5 years. Head and shoulders above the supermarket. I'd say it's mostly a function of the food being fresh and not having traveled far.
As far as organic, I think that it may not so much be for what nutrients are in it, but for many of the things that are not in it. An added benefit, as others have pointed out, are the sustainable practices of local organic farmers.
Re: major ORGANsm?!. . .is ORGANic food healthier. . .? - OWC Jamie - 07-29-2009
People buy 'organic' because it's better nutrition or because it theoretically has much fewer pesticides ?
Selective breeding for storage / growing / visual appeal is certainly the case with tomatoes. Those greenhouse grown perfect tomatoes that don't taste like anything are a perfect example.
If you need to know what a tomato is 'supposed' to taste like, grow an heirloom regular tomato and eat it straight fresh picked off the vine. Or stop a local produce farmer's market (not one that imports , though. Some do.)
Re: major ORGANsm?!. . .is ORGANic food healthier. . .? - 3d - 07-29-2009
Here in NYC there's a big farmer's market at Union Square in Manhattan. Late last winter,, (i want to say February but i'm not sure) alot of the vendors were selling apples and cups of hot apple cider. Huge piles of apples in all shapes and colors displayed charmingly in wooden crates and baskets as to visually suggest that these apples are locally grown/organic. No stickers. No labels. No brands.
But here in the NorthEast in Feb there aren't any trees with leaves.. much less apples. Where did these apples come from?! When were they picked? Are they REALLY locally grown/organic/wholesome? They can't be. Or are they just apples that were sitting in a storage bin for months shipped here from somewhere else like most things in the supermarket.
The whole thing was fishy to me. But no one seemed to care. People were buying up those apples. And apple pies. Hot cider. I didn't want to carry around a bag of apples with me so i didn't buy anything.
To me, an apple is an apple. I can't tell the difference especially when I cut them up and blind taste test them.
Re: major ORGANsm?!. . .is ORGANic food healthier. . .? - dk62 - 07-29-2009
The main reason I buy organic is for the stuff that is not in it, like pesticides and hormones.
Realistically, however, it is the game for the well-to-do. Organic food production is likely incapable to sustain human population needs and is therefore likely to remain an expensive niche. The impact of organic farming on environment is local and small, in line with the percentage of farming area devoted to the practice vs non-organic operations. If you are supporting organic growers in hopes that more food will be produced organically in the future, this is unlikely to succeed unless there is a big drop in population size/growth, even taking the profitability out of the equation.
Taste is primarily the function of when and where the produce was harvested. In addition, mass production has moved away from some of the more tasteful strains to those with higher yield (strawberries being one of the most obvious examples). You can grow flavorless strains organically or not, it will not change their taste.
Re: major ORGANsm?!. . .is ORGANic food healthier. . .? - mattkime - 07-29-2009
>>Organic food production is likely incapable to sustain human population needs
There are simple choices that we can make that have a dramatic reduction of harm. The example used in the book I mentioned above is potatoes. The potatoes used to make McDonalds french fries require ridiculous amounts of pesticide. Sure, we might have to give up McDonalds french fries but its a small price to pay.
Re: major ORGANsm?!. . .is ORGANic food healthier. . .? - NewtonMP2100 - 07-29-2009
. . .the only thing is there is no set standard for what is considered 'organic' right. . .?
. . .so they can call it 'organic' but is it?
. . .if I knew for sure, I wouldn't mind paying extra. . .
Re: major ORGANsm?!. . .is ORGANic food healthier. . .? - Z - 07-29-2009
There are standards, but like food labeling standards, the standards are fairly loose and generally rather technical. Think of your cranberry juice that is '100% juice', that in reality is mostly apple juice with a bit of cranberry concentrate thrown in for color and to overpower the apple.
Organic labeling rules outlined here: http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/getfile?dDocName=STELDEV3004446&acct=nopgeninfo