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Where does the 7D fall in Canon's DSLR food chain? - RAMd®d - 03-04-2010
I am so confused.
Re: Canon 7D refurb $1399 shipped - Gareth - 03-04-2010
Bread Crumbs wrote:
Thanks pRICE cUBE. I'm in the market for a low-end independent film camera.
Have you considered the Canon T2i 550D at $800 body only? All the reviews I've seen say that if you are interested primarily in video functions, save the money and go for the T2i. The 7D adds some compelling features, but they are almost all geared towards stills.
Though I recently read about a PL mount conversion for the 7D so you can use cine lenses, which is pretty cool, except it's a permanent modification so you can't switch between PL and Canon lenses. Plus, at $3,250 for the conversion, it certainly isn't cheap.
Re: Canon 7D refurb $1399 shipped - DP - 03-04-2010
Well, I'm a stills guy but I have a 5D Mk. II and have fiddled with the video. I have a 50mm f 1.8 ( a refurb that I bought after a pRICE post-thanx again) that looks just killer with the video. The video instructor at the school where I teach played with it and is saving his pennies to buy one; he says it is much better than the video cameras he teaches with.
I know it's full frame but I think with a lens like the 50 1.8 that the video from a T2i or a 7D should still be darn good.
Re: Canon 7D refurb $1399 shipped - Mac1337 - 03-04-2010
If they are underselling B&H or Adorama there is something up with them. It was true 20 years ago with mail order and I suppose it still is.
Re: Canon 7D refurb $1399 shipped - pRICE cUBE - 03-04-2010
DP wrote:
Well, I'm a stills guy but I have a 5D Mk. II and have fiddled with the video. I have a 50mm f 1.8 ( a refurb that I bought after a pRICE post-thanx again) that looks just killer with the video. The video instructor at the school where I teach played with it and is saving his pennies to buy one; he says it is much better than the video cameras he teaches with.
I know it's full frame but I think with a lens like the 50 1.8 that the video from a T2i or a 7D should still be darn good.
The size of the DSLR chips such as the aps-c in the 7D and t2i are much larger than camcorder chips allowing higher image quality, less noise and shallower depth of field. WHile they are not the solution, image-wise they are a nice tool to augment camcorders. I have a 5D2 also and the video is stunning with shallow aperture lenses. I look forward to picking up a T2i for hikes I am going to do this summer.
Gareth wrote:
[quote=Bread Crumbs]
Thanks pRICE cUBE. I'm in the market for a low-end independent film camera.
Have you considered the Canon T2i 550D at $800 body only? All the reviews I've seen say that if you are interested primarily in video functions, save the money and go for the T2i. The 7D adds some compelling features, but they are almost all geared towards stills.
Though I recently read about a PL mount conversion for the 7D so you can use cine lenses, which is pretty cool, except it's a permanent modification so you can't switch between PL and Canon lenses. Plus, at $3,250 for the conversion, it certainly isn't cheap.
Bread Crumbs, if you are looking for a video cam, the T2i now shipping is $799 for the body. It has the same chip and video mode as the 7D. The 7D has better still camera features such as wireless flash controller, better autofocus sensors for stills, environmental sealing.
RAMd®d wrote:
I am so confused.
Here is the breakdown.
"Gray market" or "import" cameras and lenses are the exact same thing as the USA warranty items in terms of build and materials. Where they differ is in the warranty. A USA warranty will get you fixes at authorized factory repair facilities. An import/gray typically need to be fixed by sending it to a seller and they in turn contract out with a repair facility.
Pros of import/gray: price
Cons: Phone/tech/online support is usually the seller, instruction book possible not in english, possibly longer repair time since the seller is the middle man. Companies such as Nikon will not touch import/gray in the USA, they will only fix the USA models. This is true even if you are out of warranty and just want something fixed.
So while the 7D refurb I posted is refurbished by Canon, the warranty is an Adorama warranty. In essence, it is a USA model with a seller's warranty. Which puts you in sort of the same situation as buying a new import/gray and having to send it to the seller.
The catch is most of these import/gray sellers are high pressure upsellers that give you a huge hassle when ordering, pushing extra products on you. They will also tell you the import model is made in some 3rd world country and the USA one is made in Japan. That is BS, they are made in the same place and the same quality and parts.
Re: Canon 7D refurb $1399 shipped - RAMd®d - 03-04-2010
Thanks, cUBE!
It looks like a 5D Mk II with a 100-400 L from B&H is the way to go, then.
Re: Canon 7D refurb $1399 shipped - pRICE cUBE - 03-04-2010
RAMd®d wrote:
Thanks, cUBE!
It looks like a 5D Mk II with a 100-400 L from B&H is the way to go, then.
What are you going to be shooting? The 7D actually has a next generation AF sensor, the 5D2 AF is good but not as fast. The 7D might be better with a variable aperture lens such as the 100-400mm. The 5D2 will have less noise and shallower depth of field.
Re: Where does the 7D fall in Canon's DSLR food chain? - vision63 - 03-04-2010
The 7D is a powerhouse camera and one of the best imagemakers I've ever played around with. pRICE's refurb suggestion is from a trusted company at a stupendous price. I wouldn't trust anyone else's refurbs except for it's rival B&H.