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Re: It's all about Pakistan now - john dough - 05-08-2011
Dennis S wrote:
Well, it looks like Dakota has some help now in running every thread into the ditch.
:agree: It looks like another of Dakota's posse has arrived to the forum.
Re: It's all about Pakistan now - August West - 05-08-2011
kj wrote:
August, do you think frequency might be the most relevant attribute in defining a "heckler"? I'll let you ponder that... alone.
No, I think that it yet another excuse to evade the responsibility to back up your assertions.
kj wrote:
Then August throws in his stuff that doesn't make one iota of sense, and I just don't have the time or inclination
It's very hard to take someone seriously who asserts opinions and asks questions, yet has neither the time nor inclination to come to an understanding.
When I began to seriously discuss the article YOU linked, did you treat me seriously? When I took the time to read it, think about it, and respond with my thoughts about it, was that something only a "leftie" could do, because I just have so much more time than you?
I maintain that it was an attempt at serious discussion of an interesting piece.
If you want to examine frequency, why don't you examine the frequency you maintained in ignoring my attempts to engage in serious discussion of the article you posted. Rather, you conveniently ignore any assertions contrary to your own, try to boil everything you read down to a right/left dichotomy, and then scream foul, "I'm leaving," "I'll leave you alone to ponder it," etc, when called on your assertions.
As I've said numerous times, all I see from you is an outpouring of preconceived notions and prejudices. If your response to that is to call me a heckler, I'm not surprised.
Re: It's all about Pakistan now - john dough - 05-08-2011
Such is the pattern of someone who would rather post opinions than discuss facts. The righties here may be the nicest folks on the planet yet that is not relevant on a forum where you do not engage in factual debate. Defend your points but if you don't back them up, don't run crying when you get smacked down.
It is funny that during the time that we brought OBL to justice (in the biggest way imaginable), there is somehow a political tint to this action (maybe the noise is there because of all of the folks saying that Obama was scared to go after him). If this event happened under Bush and ANY Democrat said anything about the raid, the right would have an absolute conniption (but it is perfectly ok for dissent, coming from the GOP base).
Go ahead, call me a heckler, as well, when I am one of the people here asking for proof of assertions (and to date, have seen nothing). If you cannot stand that much heat (asking for simple proof), stay out of the forum.
Re: It's all about Pakistan now - Mac1337 - 05-08-2011
I didn't get your PM today. Is messaging down?
Re: It's all about Pakistan now - Black - 05-08-2011
john dough wrote:
It is funny that during the time that we brought OBL to justice (in the biggest way imaginable), there is somehow a political tint to this action (maybe the noise is there because of all of the folks saying that Obama was scared to go after him). If this event happened under Bush and ANY Democrat said anything about the raid, the right would have an absolute conniption (but it is perfectly ok for dissent, coming from the GOP base).
I'm not sure it's too terribly funny-- predictable, tedious, frustrating, disappointing come to mind.
The Obama Administration continued the Bush Doctrine and made good on GWBs promise to bring OBL to justice, and it's eating the righties up.
Surprise surprise, they want Obama to fail and would be happy for him to take the whole country down with him if it would mean a defeat for "the other side," and anything resembling success for BHO unleashes a flood of bitterness.
Who'da thunk?
:dunno:
Re: It's all about Pakistan now - Black - 05-08-2011
Dakota wrote:God, I hope so . . .
I didn't get your PM today. Is messaging down?
Re: It's all about Pakistan now - Mac1337 - 05-09-2011
Black wrote:
[quote=john dough]
It is funny that during the time that we brought OBL to justice (in the biggest way imaginable), there is somehow a political tint to this action (maybe the noise is there because of all of the folks saying that Obama was scared to go after him). If this event happened under Bush and ANY Democrat said anything about the raid, the right would have an absolute conniption (but it is perfectly ok for dissent, coming from the GOP base).
I'm not sure it's too terribly funny-- predictable, tedious, frustrating, disappointing come to mind.
The Obama Administration continued the Bush Doctrine and made good on GWBs promise to bring OBL to justice, and it's eating the righties up.
Surprise surprise, they want Obama to fail and would be happy for him to take the whole country down with him if it would mean a defeat for "the other side," and anything resembling success for BHO unleashes a flood of bitterness.
Who'da thunk?
:dunno:
There is some of that, to be sure. However, if the jubilation of Democrats for getting, err assassinating, BIn Laden is genuine, then they must have held the desire back for 10 years just to deny Bush the satisfaction of being right. They'd rather see Bin Laden go free rather than Bush get vindicated in his approach to terrorism. The desire for a failure in Iraq was palpable too. No less a figure than Obama did not want the surge to go on lest it succeed.
Re: It's all about Pakistan now - Dennis S - 05-09-2011
"The desire for a failure in Iraq was palpable too." - Dakota
Use a new word 3 times in 3 days and it's yours.
Re: It's all about Pakistan now - john dough - 05-09-2011
It must really suck to be so angry all of the time. Not everyone in the US looks at things as simple-mindedly as some here do (maybe that is why you are so easily hoodwinked by the far right media you consume).
Have you a shred of proof of what you are saying ("They'd rather see Bin Laden go free rather than Bush get vindicated in his approach to terrorism") or is this more of the making of things up, you are well known for?
Show us some proof of this statement or STFU.
BTW, you are looking smaller and smaller every day.
Re: It's all about Pakistan now - Black - 05-09-2011
Dakota wrote:
[quote=Black]
[quote=john dough]
It is funny that during the time that we brought OBL to justice (in the biggest way imaginable), there is somehow a political tint to this action (maybe the noise is there because of all of the folks saying that Obama was scared to go after him). If this event happened under Bush and ANY Democrat said anything about the raid, the right would have an absolute conniption (but it is perfectly ok for dissent, coming from the GOP base).
I'm not sure it's too terribly funny-- predictable, tedious, frustrating, disappointing come to mind.
The Obama Administration continued the Bush Doctrine and made good on GWBs promise to bring OBL to justice, and it's eating the righties up.
Surprise surprise, they want Obama to fail and would be happy for him to take the whole country down with him if it would mean a defeat for "the other side," and anything resembling success for BHO unleashes a flood of bitterness.
Who'da thunk?
:dunno:
There is some of that, to be sure. However, if the jubilation of Democrats for getting, err assassinating, BIn Laden is genuine, then they must have held the desire back for 10 years just to deny Bush the satisfaction of being right. They'd rather see Bin Laden go free rather than Bush get vindicated in his approach to terrorism. The desire for a failure in Iraq was palpable too. No less a figure than Obama did not want the surge to go on lest it succeed.
Who are you referring to, specifically? I'm referring to you, kj, billb-- you guys seem downright depressed that the Obama administration closed that deal.