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Re: Remember when Reagan asked... - $tevie - 05-10-2011
Pretty tough to improve upon Grace62's and rankandfile's posts. I wish everyone on the opposing side would read them for comprehension instead of for talking points to argue about. I'm a cock-eyed optimist. :-)
Re: Remember when Reagan asked... - Acer - 05-10-2011
Nice work, rankandfile. Do you have a newsletter?
Looks like we're doomed to repeat 1929 every ten years or so, starting with S&Ls in the 1980s.
Re: Remember when Reagan asked... - btfc - 05-10-2011
"Nice work, rankandfile"
I agree!
Re: Remember when Reagan asked... - Grateful11 - 05-10-2011
There's absolutely nothing wrong with people making money but is anyone really worth $80mil per year?
I just don't see how anyone could be worth that kind of money. We own stock in several Corporations that
pay their CEO's these kind of big bucks but several of them are not passing the money onto the stockholders
via dividends. One company went from .40/share to a penny and they're making loads of money.
Re: Remember when Reagan asked... - kj - 05-10-2011
Gutenberg wrote:
[quote=Rolando 2go]
ThankGod that Jeezuz the Tea Party are against Socialism
Acts 4:32-35 (New International Version, ©2011)
32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.
33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all
34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales
35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need."
How unchristian of them.
I don't think this is particularly relevant to a discussion of taxes. Paying taxes is not, and should not be, considered charitable giving. Paying taxes is not "generosity". Saying you wouldn't mind paying more taxes is not generosity. The gov't is not "in need". Without any doubt, I trust my own ability to assess need more than I trust the gov't to make that decision.
It's human nature to attribute your own successes to things you do intentionally, and others' success to their circumstances, but in my experience, most of the people who make a lot of money know how to make a lot of money. I don't know what they do, I don't know whether they "deserve" it, but they are definitely talented at something. I am not good at it, and frankly, I'm ok with that. kj.
Re: Remember when Reagan asked... - $tevie - 05-10-2011
The discussion isn't about taxes. It's about ginormous CEO pay checks. Do try to keep up.
Re: Remember when Reagan asked... - Acer - 05-10-2011
Anyone notice how after a certain threshold, the justification for the super-rich to get richer begins to closely mirror the divine right of kings? As in "I don't know exactly why he's king/super-rich, but he must deserve it otherwise he wouldn't be king/super-rich."
Re: Remember when Reagan asked... - $tevie - 05-10-2011
Acer wrote:Good point.
Anyone notice how after a certain threshold, the justification for the super-rich to get richer begins to closely mirror the divine right of kings? As in "I don't know exactly why he's king/super-rich, but he must deserve it otherwise he wouldn't be king/super-rich."
Re: Remember when Reagan asked... - kj - 05-11-2011
$tevie wrote:
The discussion isn't about taxes. It's about ginormous CEO pay checks. Do try to keep up.
If this is all about ginormous ceo paychecks, is rolando saying that these rich people are all christians, so it's hard to understand why they aren't more generous with their money? Or is he saying Tea Party people should be for paying more taxes because they are all christians? Either way.... kj.
Re: Remember when Reagan asked... - kj - 05-11-2011
Acer wrote:
Anyone notice how after a certain threshold, the justification for the super-rich to get richer begins to closely mirror the divine right of kings? As in "I don't know exactly why he's king/super-rich, but he must deserve it otherwise he wouldn't be king/super-rich."
No but I notice that envy can make people completely forget about principles and logic. I've known a lot of really wealthy people, and I don't envy them at all. kj.