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Re: Score: Cat - 1, Dog - 0 - RAMd®d - 05-15-2014
Always some DB who needs to talk tough about lawsuits.
Always some DH that misses the point.
The dog needs to be put down, and now we know it will be.
But if it were my child that was attacked, a lawsuit is more responsible and generally considered more acceptable then me killing the dog. Since we know know what will happen, there would be no motivation on my part to file suit. I'm not litigious by nature.
As of last night, I don't know anything about the owner, so I don't know if the dog was set upon the boy let alone trained to attack. The dog was off leash which might be a violation in that jurisdiction. It may have just got loose on it's own.
As of the last I read, the owner's actions and extent of culpability have yet to be determined.
I could train that dog.
Maybe you could. But I don't trust the ability of that dog to be rehabilitated. For whatever reason, that dog saw the child as prey and hunted him down. I don't know that the dog was trained to do that. If it was, it could probably be untrained. But the fact that the cat was able to force it off the boy makes me think the attack wasn't a result of a command or training. That is enough to make me mistrust that dog.
One of the news anchors said that the mother was also bit. I haven't seen any other mention of that so I don't know if it's an accurate report. I don't believe that dog could ever be trusted.
Re: Score: Cat - 1, Dog - 0 - vision63 - 05-15-2014
RAMd®d wrote:
Always some DB who needs to talk tough about lawsuits.
Always some DH that misses the point.
The dog needs to be put down, and now we know it will be.
But if it were my child that was attacked, a lawsuit is more responsible and generally considered more acceptable then me killing the dog. Since we know know what will happen, there would be no motivation on my part to file suit. I'm not litigious by nature.
As of last night, I don't know anything about the owner, so I don't know if the dog was set upon the boy let alone trained to attack. The dog was off leash which might be a violation in that jurisdiction. It may have just got loose on it's own.
As of the last I read, the owner's actions and extent of culpability have yet to be determined.
I could train that dog.
Maybe you could. But I don't trust the ability of that dog to be rehabilitated. For whatever reason, that dog saw the child as prey and hunted him down. I don't know that the dog was trained to do that. If it was, it could probably be untrained. But the fact that the cat was able to force it off the boy makes me think the attack wasn't a result of a command or training. That is enough to make me mistrust that dog.
One of the news anchors said that the mother was also bit. I haven't seen any other mention of that so I don't know if it's an accurate report. I don't believe that dog could ever be trusted.
I think that we're just hardwired to kill as a solution.
Re: Score: Cat - 1, Dog - 0 - Gutenberg - 05-15-2014
I think the cat loves the boy and was defending him. Cats get a rotten rap when it comes to affection.
Re: Score: Cat - 1, Dog - 0 - Mini 9 - 05-15-2014
Speedy wrote:
The dog had been around the boy in the past without issue. They have cameras because the boy has autism. The mother hadn't seen what the cat did until she saw the video. Mother was also bitten when she went after the dog. (Mom will carry a baseball bat next time she goes after a dog.)
I suggest handgun.
Re: Score: Cat - 1, Dog - 0 - vision63 - 05-15-2014
Mini 9 wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
The dog had been around the boy in the past without issue. They have cameras because the boy has autism. The mother hadn't seen what the cat did until she saw the video. Mother was also bitten when she went after the dog. (Mom will carry a baseball bat next time she goes after a dog.)
I suggest handgun.
The dog will probably shoot her with it.
Re: Score: Cat - 1, Dog - 0 - bik - 05-15-2014
RAMd®d wrote:
Always some DB who needs to talk tough about lawsuits.
Always some DH that misses the point.
... a lawsuit is more responsible and generally considered more acceptable then me killing the dog. Since we know know what will happen, there would be no motivation on my part to file suit. I'm not litigious by nature.
No, I'm a DH, but I completely got the point.
People see that video and they have all different kinds of reactions and emotions.
Yours was "sue!"
I f-ing hate people like that.
Now we know that your second instinct would be killing the dog yourself, if only that was acceptable.
How about acceptable options like talking with the neighbor?
Calling the police and letting authorities sort things out (which is apparently what happened)?
Re: Score: Cat - 1, Dog - 0 - ka jowct - 05-15-2014
The dog should not have been off-leash. Without knowing more, I would not be so quick to just kill the dog.
Good job by the kitty.
Re: Score: Cat - 1, Dog - 0 - Racer X - 05-15-2014
And certain breeds are far more protective than others. Savanahs and Bengals are very protective of their people.
Re: Score: Cat - 1, Dog - 0 - deckeda - 05-16-2014
Dunno why a lab/chow would necessarily be crazy, but that one is/was. Tail was wagging, not down. And yet it attacked. WTF.
I don't know how you train or re-train any dog that a human boy isn't prey nor an enemy, especially when the dog was in no way provoked.
The question to the owner might have been, is it reasonable to always chain up the dog when outside, and if so, why and what's the reliability of that? Might very well have been their decision, without input from mom, to put the dog down.
Re: Score: Cat - 1, Dog - 0 - vision63 - 05-16-2014
deckeda wrote:
Dunno why a lab/chow would necessarily be crazy, but that one is/was. Tail was wagging, not down. And yet it attacked. WTF.
I don't know how you train or re-train any dog that a human boy isn't prey nor an enemy, especially when the dog was in no way provoked.
The question to the owner might have been, is it reasonable to always chain up the dog when outside, and if so, why and what's the reliability of that? Might very well have been their decision, without input from mom, to put the dog down.
You gotta keep in the yard/house. No excuse for them being out by themselves. Tons of vicious dogs. Junkyard dogs, you name it.