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Re: RIP , photojournalist James Foley - DP - 08-20-2014
One thing that might help to destabilize ISIL would be the conscious cultivation of a real power-sharing government in Baghdad in which Shi'a, Sunni, and Kurdish players all have an actual stake. ISIL could not have taken so much territory in Iraq without the implicit cooperation/silence of many Sunni Iraqis who feel under attack from a Shi'a-dominated government in Baghdad which continues to foment sectarian division for political and economic gain.
Not might, it will, I believe. Getting a little late for that, unfortunately.
Re: RIP , photojournalist James Foley - rjmacs - 08-20-2014
DP wrote:
One thing that might help to destabilize ISIL would be the conscious cultivation of a real power-sharing government in Baghdad in which Shi'a, Sunni, and Kurdish players all have an actual stake. ISIL could not have taken so much territory in Iraq without the implicit cooperation/silence of many Sunni Iraqis who feel under attack from a Shi'a-dominated government in Baghdad which continues to foment sectarian division for political and economic gain.
Not might, it will, I believe. Getting a little late for that, unfortunately.
The key different being that it's still politically viable, unlike an invasion and occupation by foreign military forces.
Re: RIP , photojournalist James Foley - SteveG - 08-20-2014
ISIS has been carrying out beheadings (on video) for weeks (months?). This just happened to be a Western reporter. Glad to see someone getting excited...finally.
Re: RIP , photojournalist James Foley - Speedy - 08-20-2014
ISIL will turn on itself soon enough. But they'll leave IEDs for decades for any visitors.
This thread should be moved to the other side.
Re: RIP , photojournalist James Foley - Black - 08-20-2014
DP wrote:
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Then lets get past politics so it won't take so long to stop ISIL.
Do you have your magic "let's get past politics" wand handy? I'm not trying to be flip, but the naïveté is making it nearly impossible not to be.
If you think the U.S. is going to send 135K+ troops back into Iraq for a prolonged occupation AGAIN right now, no matter the cause, you have a very different perspective on today's politics than i do.
I don't think you are being flip. I never said I expected the US to send troops. I said I think we should. There are not too many situations in the world that are as serious a threat to any type of stability in the Middle East that could spread far and wide than the ISIL situation. And I agree that naïveté makes it nearly impossible.
See, we're not so far apart!
So DP, you would support a full scare military occupation of Iraq? Even if it dragged on another 5-10 years? Even if your favorite "news" channels turned around and became harshly critical of the decision to do so?
Re: RIP , photojournalist James Foley - SteveG - 08-20-2014
It's the Europeans' turn to fight this one.
Re: RIP , photojournalist James Foley - hal - 08-20-2014
Don't forget Poland!
Re: RIP , photojournalist James Foley - vision63 - 08-20-2014
Steve G. wrote:
It's the Europeans' turn to fight this one.
Nope. We broke it. We're going to "attempt" to fix it.
Re: RIP , photojournalist James Foley - OWC Jamie - 08-20-2014
cbelt3 wrote:
Reported brutally murdered by ISIS terrorists after two years in captivity .
I've only seen pics of him with a knife held to his neck.
Not that I have any desire to watch it but they really filmed cutting his head off ?
That had to be horrible for his parents to watch ( if they did)
Re: RIP , photojournalist James Foley - DP - 08-20-2014
So DP, you would support a full scare military occupation of Iraq? Even if it dragged on another 5-10 years? Even if your favorite "news" channels turned around and became harshly critical of the decision to do so?
Yes. This distortion of Islam is the most dangerous thing we face in the world today.
And you don't know what my favorite news channels are.