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Re: i guess it's now ok to steal from starbucks - Silencio - 10-06-2006
Yeah, I too pretty much agree with $tevie. Starbucks is a very easy target because of their sheer, almost excessive ubiquity. Do they really need to have 10 branches within maybe 8 square blocks of downtown San Francisco? Judging by the latté lines, I guess they do.
Aside from the market saturation, overly-charred roasts, and annoying product nomenclature, Starbucks is a pretty progressive company that's making great strides in mitigating environmental impacts, giving a big boost to fair trade coffee, &c. I don't feel bad about going to a Starbucks if there's not much else around (I am an addict, after all!) or it's the holiday season and I have a hankering for a peppermint mocha or eggnog latté, but there are so many good independent cafés around here that are worth supporting.
Re: i guess it's now ok to steal from starbucks - pixelzombie - 10-06-2006
[quote Seacrest]So somebody has figured out that the "latte" is just overpriced coffee and milk and found a an alternative to the big ripoff.
What f%$#@ing whiners.
I only drink strong black coffee myself.
espresso is indeed just coffee, but it takes more work to actually make some and you only produce 1/6 of the amount as opposed to when you drip brew the same amount of beans...
Re: i guess it's now ok to steal from starbucks - Baby Tats - 10-06-2006
The thing that I found the most interesting is the comments. The coffee making counter help actually cares. Life is too short to be continually worried about the unconsequential actions of others. Someone is using more half-and-half than some arbitrary number that they think is right. So. Those people need to get over themselves. "Baristas" think that because they can steam milk and add ice to coffee that they are something more than counter help and therefore deserve their own job title. Occasionally I like to drink fancy coffee, but I refuse to participate in fancy coffee culture. At the end of the day it is still burnt bean and water soup.
BT
Re: i guess it's now ok to steal from starbucks - Marc Anthony - 10-06-2006
Others have already made similar comments, but I also don't see the issue. All the customer is doing is ordering a drink without dairy and then putting some half and half in, for taste. I think she is a smart customer, and that she should be allowed to add in a condiment that's made freely available.
Re: i guess it's now ok to steal from starbucks - pixelzombie - 10-06-2006
[quote Marc Anthony]Others have already made similar comments, but I also don't see the issue. All the customer is doing is ordering a drink without dairy and then putting some half and half in, for taste. I think she is a smart customer, and that she should be allowed to add in a condiment that's made freely available.
"some" turns out to be about 14 oz...
Re: i guess it's now ok to steal from starbucks - SeattlePhotog - 10-06-2006
Whether you love Starbucks or hate Starbucks, you ALL know what's going on here. People are intentionally abusing the system. They're not, as JLo's husband claims, "putting half and half in, for taste". They are DRINKING half and half, for free.
Yes, the Starbucks company makes more money than you do. Sorry.
But the condiments are out there to FLAVOR the drinks, not to BE the drinks.
Everyone knows it. People ordering the ghetto lattés know it. The managers and baristas know it. And YOU know it.
if they aren't literally STEALING, clearly they are still playing the system. Half-and-half isn't free, and soon we will ALL pay increased prices due to this abuse.
These people go home and steal MP3s from Limewire too. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean that you SHOULD do it.
No matter which side of this issue you are on, at least be honest. Ghetto latté = abusing the system.
Re: i guess it's now ok to steal from starbucks - M A V I C - 10-06-2006
They are DRINKING half and half, for free.
Not if the drink was paid for.
But the condiments are out there to FLAVOR the drinks, not to BE the drinks.
And in this case they do flavor the drinks. It's not like they're drinking a whole up of half and half.
These people go home and steal MP3s from Limewire too. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean that you SHOULD do it.
That's a completely different story. It more like going to the store, buying a CD, and asking for a bag way bigger than the CD because you want to wrap it up well so it can't be seen through the bag.
Re: i guess it's now ok to steal from starbucks - $tevie - 10-06-2006
I am dead serious when I say that the description in that article tells me nothing. I can't figure out how much half-and-half the person is using. Sorry, I guess I don't speak Coffee.
The EXACT drink she orders as we have it on our menu (with all the shots and milk she is actually getting) are called Iced Quad Venti Breve Latte and an Iced Triple Grande Breve Latte.
Venti (and Grande) Americanos come with 4 and 3 shots (respectively) of espresso and then water (and ice).
Lattes are 2 shots (and 2, respectively) espresso, milk and Ice.
Additional shots are $.55. Half and Half (breve) is also an additional charge.
That is all jibber jabber to me. I see nowhere that it says she used 14 ounces of half-and-half.
Frankly, I am not comfortable with the way everyone uses the term "ghetto" these days. Calling the drinks ghetto-lattes lost me before I even tried to decipher the gobbledy gook.
Re: i guess it's now ok to steal from starbucks - elmo3 - 10-06-2006
You can't define "flavoring the drink" vs. "be the drink"; there's no real line there, other than the imaginary one YOU draw in your mind.
"But they're cheating!" Waaaaaaaaaah................the cry of the loser who didn't figure it out on his own, and who's too scared to do it himself. He won't do it himself, and he doesn't want anyone ELSE to do it, either. No sir, no one else should do something the loser himself can't bring himself to do.
Have you ever walked into a fast food place and evaluated their combo price vs. buying things separately? Sometimes, the combo price is HIGHER than buying it separately (maybe there's a special going on, or they just plain goofed). Buying it all separately is a LOWER price.
Is it STEALING to ask for the same food separately, so that you get a lower price? Many losers would say so, because they didn't think of it themselves...
"I'd like a half dozen chicken nuggets, please." "Oh, we don't have half dozen. We have 6, 9, or 12."
I seem to remember awhile back when buying two 6 nugget portions at McD's was cheaper--decently so--than buying a single 12 nugget portion. Was I STEALING from McD's?
Frankly, if Starbucks really cared, they'd put the condiments out in sealed portion-size containers.
Those who care about calling out people doing this thing at Starbucks really, really need to get a life of their own.
Re: i guess it's now ok to steal from starbucks - elmo3 - 10-06-2006
For grins, I'm going to stop at a Starbucks store on the way home and ask them to help me acquire and assemble a ghetto-latte. I'd like to see what they say.