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Re: Documents at Mar-a-Lago Were Moved and Hidden as U.S. Sought Them - samintx - 08-31-2022
Copies have to have been circulated. How to find pot ?
Re: Documents at Mar-a-Lago Were Moved and Hidden as U.S. Sought Them - pdq - 08-31-2022
One more. From the same PDF, this is the sworn statement/certification from the duly designated “custodian of records for the office of Donald J Trump”:
[img size=400https://forums.macresource.com/file.php?1,file=16111,filename=57D1F5D2-1F5E-4854-9B8A-26E42F52C717.png">
…and a closer look at what they specifically swore was true:
a. Obviously not diligent enough; the FBI found more than twice the number of classified records than Trump’s lawyers turned over when subpoenaed.
b.
c. Ditto to a. Not even close.
d. Well, who knows? Can you trust these people?
PS - I can understand why they blacked this lawyer’s sig out at the bottom! I mean, he was obviously doing this at the direction of Trump, but if he knew it was false, they ought to fry his ass.
Re: Documents at Mar-a-Lago Were Moved and Hidden as U.S. Sought Them - steve... - 08-31-2022
GGD wrote:
Does the National Archives and intelligence agencies have a list of what documents are missing and were last in his possession. It would be interesting to know what if any are still missing even after the FBI search.
I hope they have a list of missing documents.
How could Trump be trusted to NOT have returned everything? It was reported that he personally went through all of the boxes.
Re: Documents at Mar-a-Lago Were Moved and Hidden as U.S. Sought Them - pdq - 08-31-2022
Incidentally, the photo of the docs was taken at Mar-a-Lago, as confirmed by Trump.
Notice it’s not These documents were planted by the FBI!
It’s like, Oh, yeah, I recognize those. On my carpet. I declassified those. I didn’t think you meant those SCI documents in your subpoena.
The thing he takes issue with is how “haphazard” they were. :RollingEyesSmiley5:
Dig, dig, dig. Deeper and deeper.
This man is losing whatever he once might have had above the collar.
Re: Documents at Mar-a-Lago Were Moved and Hidden as U.S. Sought Them - hal - 08-31-2022
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/31/why-donald-trump-will-soon-be-indicted/
Andrew Napolitano - Fox's guaranteed far-right legal analyst says Trump is going to be indicted joining every other legal mind out there.
Even a cursory review of the redacted version of the affidavit submitted in support of the government’s application for a search warrant at the home of former President Donald Trump reveals that he will soon be indicted by a federal grand jury for three crimes: Removing and concealing national defense information (NDI), giving NDI to those not legally entitled to possess it, and obstruction of justice by failing to return NDI to those who are legally entitled to retrieve it.
When he learned from a phone call that 30 FBI agents were at the front door of his Florida residence with a search warrant and he decided to reveal this publicly, Mr. Trump assumed that the agents were looking for classified top-secret materials that they’d allege he criminally possessed. His assumptions were apparently based on his gut instinct and not on a sophisticated analysis of the law. Hence, his public boast that he declassified all the formerly classified documents he took with him.
Unbeknownst to him, the feds had anticipated such a defense and are not preparing to indict him for possessing classified materials, even though he did possess hundreds of voluntarily surrendered materials marked “top secret.” It is irrelevant if the documents were declassified, as the feds will charge crimes that do not require proof of classification. They told the federal judge who signed the search warrant that Mr. Trump still had NDI in his home. It appears they were correct.
Under the law, it doesn’t matter if the documents on which NDI is contained are classified or not, as it is simply and always criminal to have NDI in a non-federal facility, to have those without security clearances move it from one place to another, and to keep it from the feds when they are seeking it. Stated differently, the absence of classification — for whatever reason — is not a defense to the charges that are likely to be filed against Mr. Trump.
Yet, misreading and underestimating the feds, Mr. Trump actually did them a favor. One of the elements that they must prove for any of the three crimes is that Mr. Trump knew that he had the documents. The favor he did was admit to that when he boasted that they were no longer classified. He committed a mortal sin in the criminal defense world by denying something for which he had not been accused.
Re: Documents at Mar-a-Lago Were Moved and Hidden as U.S. Sought Them - GGD - 08-31-2022
He's probably now wishing that Merrick Garland had been appointed to the Supreme Court. And will blame this whole thing on Mitch McConnell.
Re: Documents at Mar-a-Lago Were Moved and Hidden as U.S. Sought Them - Lemon Drop - 08-31-2022
Not only a criminal, a very stupid criminal.
6 years later I'm still in disbelief that this person became POTUS.
Re: Documents at Mar-a-Lago Were Moved and Hidden as U.S. Sought Them - hal - 08-31-2022
GGD wrote:
He's probably now wishing that Merrick Garland had been appointed to the Supreme Court. And will blame this whole thing on Mitch McConnell.
that's good! and it might even happen :-)
Re: Documents at Mar-a-Lago Were Moved and Hidden as U.S. Sought Them - pdq - 08-31-2022
hal wrote:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/31/why-donald-trump-will-soon-be-indicted/
Andrew Napolitano - Fox's guaranteed far-right legal analyst says Trump is going to be indicted joining every other legal mind out there.
Wow. When the Moonie paper and fellow-elevator-horndog “Judge” Napolitano are giving up on him, that’s bad news for the Don. What’s next, The New York Post? Epoch Times?
Why are people so mean?
Hence, his public boast that he declassified all the formerly classified documents he took with him.
Well, you have to consider the source - the guy who wrote this helped prosecute Nixon - but this opinion piece in The Hill says that that was impossible:
No, Trump didn’t declassify everything; it’s barred by the Nixon tapes decision
Let the rioting in the street commence, preferably outside Lindsey Graham’s house first.
Re: Documents at Mar-a-Lago Were Moved and Hidden as U.S. Sought Them - RgrF - 08-31-2022
Lemon Drop wrote:
Not only a criminal, a very stupid criminal.
6 years later I'm still in disbelief that this person became POTUS.
His current problems are exacerbated by his inability to bring on competent counsel before acting or speaking. This inability to hire competent counsel is of course a problem of his own making.