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Re: Should We Nationalize GM ? - DevoBill - 12-02-2008
Gutenberg wrote:
What the government SHOULD do to pay for all this is to tax the living daylights out of trucks for anything but farm and commercial use. And kill the Hummer division. Men should find another method to prove their sexual worth, like raking the leaves and finishing the weatherstripping.
It snows a lot here, enough that a Subaru would only be moderately effective. Plus I have three kids a dog and a boat to pull around. Going to the lake for the week uses most all the cargo space in the Suburban. Taxing trucks more is just plane dumb.
These auto companies problems start with having too many models, they compete with them selves.
Re: Should We Nationalize GM ? - mattkime - 12-02-2008
billb wrote:
[quote=kj]
[quote=Gutenberg]
What the government SHOULD do to pay for all this is to tax the living daylights out of trucks for anything but farm and commercial use. And kill the Hummer division. Men should find another method to prove their sexual worth, like raking the leaves and finishing the weatherstripping.
Uh, I don't want to interrupt the shared man-hate session here, but I see a lot of women driving huge SUV's, Pickups, and even Hummers. Penis-envy? kj.
How dare you interupt a hate session with facts.
Women can have penis envy.
Re: Should We Nationalize GM ? - kj - 12-02-2008
mattkime wrote:
[quote=billb]
[quote=kj]
[quote=Gutenberg]
What the government SHOULD do to pay for all this is to tax the living daylights out of trucks for anything but farm and commercial use. And kill the Hummer division. Men should find another method to prove their sexual worth, like raking the leaves and finishing the weatherstripping.
Uh, I don't want to interrupt the shared man-hate session here, but I see a lot of women driving huge SUV's, Pickups, and even Hummers. Penis-envy? kj.
How dare you interupt a hate session with facts.
Women can have penis envy.
Thanks for your declaration matt. That is basically my mantra.
kj.
Re: Should We Nationalize GM ? - Gutenberg - 12-02-2008
You concluded that I hate men based on that statement? Awfully sensitive of you.
Re: Should We Nationalize GM ? - $tevie - 12-02-2008
I tried debating some sensible points but nobody cared to respond. So-called "hate talk" at least breaks through the apathy and lazy brains.
Re: Should We Nationalize GM ? - lafinfil - 12-02-2008
Ummmm - Did anyone actually read the article ?
Many if not all of the arguments were addressed
Re: Should We Nationalize GM ? - AlphaDog - 12-02-2008
kj wrote:
[quote=Gutenberg]
What the government SHOULD do to pay for all this is to tax the living daylights out of trucks for anything but farm and commercial use. And kill the Hummer division. Men should find another method to prove their sexual worth, like raking the leaves and finishing the weatherstripping.
Uh, I don't want to interrupt the shared man-hate session here, but I see a lot of women driving huge SUV's, Pickups, and even Hummers. Penis-envy? kj.
Gifts from their husbands?
Re: Should We Nationalize GM ? - kj - 12-02-2008
Gutenberg wrote:
You concluded that I hate men based on that statement? Awfully sensitive of you.
I didn't say you hate men. Your statement was false, though.
Stevie, you seem to be choosing to ignore the serious points I made.
I read the article, and a bunch of other blogs on the same subject. I don't think they address my point that well. There have been green cars available, and not everybody wants them. I don't see how requiring GM to make green cars is going to save them. Not only do they need to make green cars that are as good as the alternatives, but they have to make green cars that people percieve as being as good. Nationalizing won't do anything to improve their ability to do this. And toyota/honda/etc. will continue to make non-green cars that people will buy instead of the green gm cars. A camry/accord is not green.
Al Gore is going to help GM? Now that is a frickin' joke. He definitely has his hand on the pulse of the auto-buying public. kj.
Re: Should We Nationalize GM ? - Gutenberg - 12-02-2008
I did read the article. I think he has some excellent points. However, precedent is a bitch.
Quite a few threads ago, also on a topic involving the automobile industry, rgG made the excellent point that we can't just let our auto industry go down the tubes--it's a matter of national security. America's industrial might won World War II as much as its army did. It certainly would be a comedown to have to buy our military vehicles from another country--particularly when we have disagreements with that country.
Re: Should We Nationalize GM ? - cbelt3 - 12-02-2008
I'd rather see us nationalize energy. Electric power was created with government funds- bond sales, primarily. Now incredible profits are being made and no further investment is done.
Since they're not taking the money and building more power plants and improving the infrastructure, offer to buy 'em out and control them.
Power to the People !
(Yeah, Ohio is about to 'deregulate' electricity. We're all gonna get Enronned to death. It's going to be a cold winter, and me without a wood burner.)