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Re: ACORN Trains Citizens To Protest Home Foreclosures - swampy - 02-20-2009
Gutenberg wrote:
ACORN does not get federal grants and does not have nonprofit status because its activities are often political. Can anyone show me a federal grant that went to ACORN?
ACORN Housing does not count. It is a nonprofit, has separate governance and administers low income housing.
So. Can anyone show me a federal grant that went to ACORN? Anyone? Bueller?
"The ACORN Housing Corp. (AHC), an ACORN affiliate, receives more than 40 percent of its funding from government sources, ostensibly to promote affordable housing to low- and middle-income families.
But according to CRL, internal documents obtained from whistleblowers suggest that ACORN has failed to maintain the proper distinction between its tax-exempt housing work and its aggressive political activities.
“ACORN and its offshoots take in millions of dollars in government grants under the guise of ‘consumer advocacy’ to line their own pockets,” said Jim Terry, CRL’s chief public advocate.
The new testimony, from four former ACORN and AHC employees, provides “hard confirmation” that ACORN and its affiliate are in fact one in the same, Terry told Newsmax.
“Here are people who have been in the room, testifying to the criminal intent of the people involved” in shuffling ACORN resources from tax-exempt purposes to political activities, he said.
“Everything they do and say, with the exception of filing their government reports, treats this family of organizations as one cohesive unit. They operated as one organization, controlled from the top down,” Terry said.
One former employee, who was with ACORN for six years, including in a management position, testified that she has “knowledge that AHC has subsidized and believe that AHC continues to subsidize ACORN activities,” in apparent violation of the law.
“AHC subsidies to ACORN include office telephone service, fax, supplies and rental space paid for by AHC funds,” she added.
In addition, AHC management routinely treated federal grants as money that could be shared with ACORN, Terry told Newsmax.
“Between 2004 through 2006, AHC transferred $4.6 million to ACORN in grants and fees, according to their tax returns. This is inherently wrong.”
Since 40 percent of AHC funds came from government grants, that means that U.S. taxpayers were in effect paying for ACORN’s partisan political activities, he added.
AHC required employees to “solicit funds and cash from clients and real estate professionals to pay for AHC operations,” one of the whistleblowers said, detailing what amounted to a “shakedown” operation.
Another former AHC employee said he would testify in court to the fact that “AHC and ACORN have operated as one entity,” and quoted internal e-mails detailing how federal grants were shared between the organizations. "
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/acorn_voter_fraud/2008/10/13/140131.html
You conveniently want to exclude AHC from the mix don't you, Gutenberg? AHC gets ton's of federal grant money then filters it on to the other branches of ACORN. Why do you think ACORN is under investigation, Gute?
Re: ACORN Trains Citizens To Protest Home Foreclosures - Gutenberg - 02-20-2009
It's not convenient. They are different groups with different governance. You can't convince many of us with anonymous right-wing "whistleblowers."
Put up or shut up. Show me a federal grant to ACORN. Not ACORN Housing, ACORN.
Re: ACORN Trains Citizens To Protest Home Foreclosures - Mac1337 - 02-20-2009
Gutenberg wrote:
ACORN does not get federal grants and does not have nonprofit status because its activities are often political. Can anyone show me a federal grant that went to ACORN?
ACORN Housing does not count. It is a nonprofit, has separate governance and administers low income housing.
So. Can anyone show me a federal grant that went to ACORN? Anyone? Bueller?
What swampy said. Once money leaves Washington there is no telling where it ends up. I am sure there are enough front organizations to make sure Acorn gets the money it needs.
Re: ACORN Trains Citizens To Protest Home Foreclosures - $tevie - 02-20-2009
You know, I am not even that big a fan of ACORN but you guys make me want to give them money. Stop trying to act like they are a bunch of revolutionaries who are trying to destroy the country. You look just plain foolish. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! This broken record deserves to be put in the trash bin. You guys listen to too much right wing BS.
Re: ACORN Trains Citizens To Protest Home Foreclosures - Dennis S - 02-20-2009
"I dont want a dime of my money going to this crap."
Then, don't pay your taxes. I think you are already inclined to join the group that thinks taxes are illegal. Now's the time to test it out. Go for it.
Re: ACORN Trains Citizens To Protest Home Foreclosures - OWC Jamie - 02-20-2009
there's big money in poverty
you don't necessarily have to embezzle it, either
Re: ACORN Trains Citizens To Protest Home Foreclosures - $tevie - 02-20-2009
There's big money in "repairing the infrastructure" of Iraq, too. Life is unfair.
Re: ACORN Trains Citizens To Protest Home Foreclosures - Dennis S - 02-20-2009
So what, swampy? You are going to go crazy if you keep this up. You can start worrying if Obama invades Portugal or lets planes fly into the Sears Tower while he's playing basketball or runs up 5 trillion dollars mainly by giving tax cuts to his Chicago friends.
Re: ACORN Trains Citizens To Protest Home Foreclosures - Mac1337 - 02-20-2009
Do you guys know this guy?
Does he look like a guy who commands the confidence of the nation in this once in a century housing crisis? He looks like 3 years out of college. I doubt if he even qualifies for a mortgage yet.
Re: ACORN Trains Citizens To Protest Home Foreclosures - swampy - 02-20-2009
Gutenberg, If you don't like whistle blowers, how 'bout this.
"Boehner Releases Analysis Showing ACORN Has Received at Least $31 Million in Federal Funding; Untold Millions More through State & Local Agencies
“Taxpayers Don’t Need ACORN Either,” Boehner Says in Response to Obama
Washington, Oct 16, 2008 - House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) today released an analysis showing that the left-wing group ACORN, currently under investigation by the FBI for a “coordinated national scam” of voter registration fraud according to the Associated Press, has received at least $31 million in federal funding from various federal agencies since 1998. This total does not count the untold millions more that ACORN has received indirectly through state and local agencies that receive federal block grants. Boehner, who last week called for an end to federal funding of ACORN following widespread reports of voter fraud by the group, released the following statement:
“Senator Obama recently said that he doesn’t need ACORN. Well, American taxpayers don’t need ACORN either. They don’t need ACORN’s voter registration fraud, and they no longer need to support ACORN with federal funds.
“ACORN’s free ride on the backs of taxpayers must end immediately. An initial review of federal records shows ACORN affiliates have received at least $31 million in direct federal funding from American taxpayers over the past 10 years, and millions more indirectly through state and local agencies that receive federal block grants. House Republicans worked together to stop the Majority from using taxpayer dollars to fill a slush fund created just for ACORN, but now we must go further to turn off the spigot of federal grants on which ACORN depends.
“Recent revelations of voter registration fraud on a massive scale in critical states are unacceptable. ACORN’s dishonest approach to voter registration, including fraudulently registering the cartoon character Mickey Mouse, shows a brazen disrespect for the law and our system of free and fair elections. In conjunction with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and its political allies in the Democratic Party, ACORN also played a key role in creating the financial crisis that ultimately put our entire economy in peril. It’s time for us to stop forcing American taxpayers to fund the ACORN machine.”
A review of the Federal Register shows that ACORN affiliates in 11 states received more than $31 million in federal funds from 1998 to 2008.
One of the grants to an ACORN affiliate, a Jan. 17, 2007 award to ACORN Associates Inc. of Albuquerque, NM, is notable because it appears to facilitate and encourage the use of risky subprime loans, now viewed by many as a contributing factor in the recent freezing up of international credit markets. The title for the grant? “Education and Outreach Initiative/Subprime Lending Component.”
A breakdown of federal funds received by ACORN can be found here." [Click link for PDF showing monies distributed to ACH and ACORN INSTITUTE
http://republicanleader.house.gov/news/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=104821
Get your head out of the sand, Gute. A little fresh air will do you good.