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Re: Breaking News! Large air spill at wind farm! - cbelt3 - 05-03-2010
Dakota wrote:
Two years ago, PPM commissioned a study to learn how many bats could be affected by its proposed wind farm. Biologists hung nets for two nights in 10 locations and caught 138 bats. Cale calculates that if 24 nets -- that's one for each turbine -- were left up through the 14 combined weeks of seasonal bat migration, more than 16,000 bats would be caught. Each net covered an area of about 1,000 square feet. That compares to 66,000 square feet carved out by a turbine's rotating blades. "It's going to be a slaughterhouse," Cale said.
Bollocks to the 'study'. It assumes
1- Bats won't hear or see the big whooshing blades of doom
2- Bats have a common 'migration pattern.
One of the common 'worries' about wind turbines is 'all the boids that die'. And while they DO, the number of birds that run into blades is less than the number of birds that run into glass skyscrapers. And die. And nobody needs a bird death study to build a big old avian suicide machine like that.
Re: Breaking News! Large air spill at wind farm! - Mac1337 - 05-03-2010
All I am saying is where are all those thick studies mandated by the EPA and a dozen other agencies? I don't think they are going to take your word for it.
Re: Breaking News! Large air spill at wind farm! - Wags - 05-03-2010
Everyone whines about various energy sources, blah, blah, blah, but no one is willing to address the root cause of it all. Overpopulation. I'd like to see a few of the forum members get themselves sterilized. The problem is that ones who need it the most will claim God wants them to splurt out kids as fast as possible. Dominion over the earth and all that. Right, good job so far.
Re: Breaking News! Large air spill at wind farm! - OWC Jamie - 05-03-2010
cbelt3 wrote:
[quote=Dakota]
Two years ago, PPM commissioned a study to learn how many bats could be affected by its proposed wind farm. Biologists hung nets for two nights in 10 locations and caught 138 bats. Cale calculates that if 24 nets -- that's one for each turbine -- were left up through the 14 combined weeks of seasonal bat migration, more than 16,000 bats would be caught. Each net covered an area of about 1,000 square feet. That compares to 66,000 square feet carved out by a turbine's rotating blades. "It's going to be a slaughterhouse," Cale said.
Bollocks to the 'study'. It assumes
1- Bats won't hear or see the big whooshing blades of doom
2- Bats have a common 'migration pattern.
One of the common 'worries' about wind turbines is 'all the boids that die'. And while they DO, the number of birds that run into blades is less than the number of birds that run into glass skyscrapers. And die. And nobody needs a bird death study to build a big old avian suicide machine like that.
Good thing they found blades worked much better than nets on turbines.
Bats that bump into things don't live too long in the woods anyway.
Re: Breaking News! Large air spill at wind farm! - Acer - 05-03-2010
The bat thing, as well as turbines in migratory flyways, as well as the large physical footprint of scaled up wind farms (hint: it's not just room for the pole that they clear), not to mention the current goldrush to development before informed laws and regulations can be established, are all serious issues with wind power. Ya'll might want to google before you poo-poo.
Re: Breaking News! Large air spill at wind farm! - Mac1337 - 05-04-2010
A year and half a go I posted this. It is for real.
http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,802761,802776#msg-802776
Re: Breaking News! Large air spill at wind farm! - Filliam H. Muffman - 05-04-2010
Total renewable production can be over 13% here. Wind generation for today in California was between 0.3% and 4.5% of total capacity depending on how strong the wind was blowing at a specific time. Wind generation could double and solar could easily quadruple.
These are live charts, so it will change at midnight and could be much different.
Re: Breaking News! Large air spill at wind farm! - decay - 05-06-2010
nothing ventured, nothing gained.
American ingenuity and the spirit of discovery - with less impact on the environment.
who's against it? Big Oil, that's who. and the congress critters who are bribed by them.