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Re: DNC emails leaks about Sanders going to mean anything? - Lemon Drop - 07-24-2016
vision63 wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
DWS is getting her hand slapped. I do think she should resign and she likely will, but my bet would be it's after the election. Hillary will put someone else in charge of the DNC; DWS is an "in name-only" leader at this point anyway.
"She's been quarantined," another top Democrat said, following a meeting Saturday night.
This is seen as a concession to Sanders, who has been furious at Wasserman Schultz for what he believed was favoritism to Clinton.
The Democrat familiar with the decision said it was done in hopes of preventing chaos on the convention floor among Sanders supporters.
The decision was blessed by Clinton and Sanders officials, this Democrat said.
Her job is to implement Hillary's 50 state strategy. The convention is basically a formal showcase infomercial. Obama already told DWS "I got your back" multiple times.
Last month, Hillary put Brandon Davis in charge of her election strategy at the DNC. DWS is a title only as far as Hillary in concerned and I expect her to be out sometime after the convention.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign-dnc/index.html
Re: DNC emails leaks about Sanders going to mean anything? - vision63 - 07-24-2016
Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=vision63]
[quote=Lemon Drop]
DWS is getting her hand slapped. I do think she should resign and she likely will, but my bet would be it's after the election. Hillary will put someone else in charge of the DNC; DWS is an "in name-only" leader at this point anyway.
"She's been quarantined," another top Democrat said, following a meeting Saturday night.
This is seen as a concession to Sanders, who has been furious at Wasserman Schultz for what he believed was favoritism to Clinton.
The Democrat familiar with the decision said it was done in hopes of preventing chaos on the convention floor among Sanders supporters.
The decision was blessed by Clinton and Sanders officials, this Democrat said.
Her job is to implement Hillary's 50 state strategy. The convention is basically a formal showcase infomercial. Obama already told DWS "I got your back" multiple times.
Last month, Hillary put Brandon Davis in charge of her election strategy at the DNC. DWS is a title only as far as Hillary in concerned and I expect her to be out sometime after the convention.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign-dnc/index.html
I think she just quit. I just heard somebody say.
Re: DNC emails leaks about Sanders going to mean anything? - Lemon Drop - 07-24-2016
I just heard Bernie on "This Week" giving one of the best endorsements of Hillary Clinton that I've heard. Nobody needs to doubt his sincerity in supporting the Democratic ticket and other Democrats/progressives who are running this fall. He's clearly directing all of his supporters to Hillary and away from Trump, who he calls "the worst candidate for president in my lifetime" who must be defeated.
Re: DNC emails leaks about Sanders going to mean anything? - Lemon Drop - 07-24-2016
vision63 wrote:
I think she just quit. I just heard somebody say.
No appearances at the convention, no gaveling. If she's not resigning what is she going to do exactly? She must be in negotiations over her job and somebody is leaking the conversation blow-by-blow, which is not great.
Re: DNC emails leaks about Sanders going to mean anything? - Lemon Drop - 07-24-2016
What about this charge from the Clinton campaign that Russians are behind the hack of the DNC because they want Trump to win?
That's a bit of a stretch without presenting evidence, but it does acknowledge that they know these emails are very damaging.
Bernie has a right to demand the head of DWS at this point and it sounds as though he's getting just that.
Re: DNC emails leaks about Sanders going to mean anything? - Onamuji - 07-24-2016
vision63 wrote:
[quote=Filliam H. Muffman]
With all the super delegates throwing in for Clinton before the primaries even started, it was rigged from the start. Bernie had a surprisingly good result. I think he got off to a late start because he didn't believe he had a chance. Things like the voter suppression in NY with a 6 month lead time to switch from Independent to Democrat made it even harder. The Clinton campaign and the DNC working together against him was just another thumb on the scale.
Liquors must have drunkened you. Hillary Clinton got 3.7 million more votes than Sanders. Here's a primer on how she defeated him lest you should ever become confused again.
How Clinton Won
How Hillary Clinton overcame the challenge from Sen. Bernie Sanders
http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/
The System Isn’t ‘Rigged’ Against Sanders
Clinton’s winning because more Democrats want her to be the nominee.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-system-isnt-rigged-against-sanders/
Nate Silver Explains Why Clinton Will Be Democratic Nominee – It’s Not A Rigged System
Hillary Clinton will be the nominee because more Democrats voted for her because she is a "hard core liberal" and not because of a rigged system.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/09/nate-silver-explains-clinton-democratic-nominee-a-rigged-system.html
It's possible for someone to win the popular vote in a system rigged in her favor.
The two are not exclusive.
Sanders may well have lost anyway, but -- as the DNC emails demonstrate -- the organization was working against him from the start. He'd have had a better chance with a system that wasn't invested in promoting Clinton.
The DNC is assembling a commission to make a report with recommendations for fixing the delegate system. They should also hire outside council to investigate misconduct during the last election and remove every chair and vice-chair implicated in the scandal.
Re: DNC emails leaks about Sanders going to mean anything? - OWC Jamie - 07-24-2016
samintx wrote:
[quote=billb]
Democrats will obfuscate anything, evrything , anywhere that will impede the crowning of their corrupt figurehead onto their corrupt throne.
Do you suppose Hillary will borrow one of Trumster's 14K Louie 14th gold chairs for her coronation? Maybe the Trumster will offer her one. They got one.
Re: DNC emails leaks about Sanders going to mean anything? - Filliam H. Muffman - 07-24-2016
vision63 wrote:
[quote=Filliam H. Muffman]
With all the super delegates throwing in for Clinton before the primaries even started, it was rigged from the start. Bernie had a surprisingly good result. I think he got off to a late start because he didn't believe he had a chance. Things like the voter suppression in NY with a 6 month lead time to switch from Independent to Democrat made it even harder. The Clinton campaign and the DNC working together against him was just another thumb on the scale.
Liquors must have drunkened you. Hillary Clinton got 3.7 million more votes than Sanders. Here's a primer on how she defeated him lest you should ever become confused again.
How Clinton Won
How Hillary Clinton overcame the challenge from Sen. Bernie Sanders
http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/
"Those results, along with her struggle to beat Mr. Sanders among white voters overall, could suggest a weakness in the general election. Republicans tend to win white voters, and presumed GOP nominee Donald Trump is particularly strong among lower-income white voters."
Clinton struggled to beat Bernie.
The System Isn’t ‘Rigged’ Against Sanders
Clinton’s winning because more Democrats want her to be the nominee.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-system-isnt-rigged-against-sanders/
Nate Silver Explains Why Clinton Will Be Democratic Nominee – It’s Not A Rigged System
Hillary Clinton will be the nominee because more Democrats voted for her because she is a "hard core liberal" and not because of a rigged system.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/09/nate-silver-explains-clinton-democratic-nominee-a-rigged-system.html
More Democrats want her to win. It ignores all the Independents that wanted to vote for Bernie but couldn't because of voter suppression. I predict that Clinton is going to have a very hard time in November, and part of it will be because of how the DNC has treated Independent voters.
Re: DNC emails leaks about Sanders going to mean anything? - $tevie - 07-24-2016
OK, that article in the OP really was bad reporting. Obviously it vastly underplayed the extent of the emails.
Re: DNC emails leaks about Sanders going to mean anything? - max - 07-25-2016
Lemon Drop wrote:Clinton camp desperation sinking to another low level.
What about this charge from the Clinton campaign that Russians are behind the hack of the DNC because they want Trump to win?
That's a bit of a stretch without presenting evidence, but it does acknowledge that they know these emails are very damaging.
Her numbers are sinking this week, two separate polls and she is in a tie with Trump, trending down.
The Democrats did it all by themselves, Sanders was much better choice....