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Re: L.A. Times: "Health insurers pour money into GOP campaigns, hoping to limit new regulations" - Mac1337 - 10-06-2010
Hiding behind my spelling is your last hide out? Answer the question.
Re: L.A. Times: "Health insurers pour money into GOP campaigns, hoping to limit new regulations" - Ted King - 10-06-2010
Dakota wrote:
[quote=$tevie]
When someone has to start accusing everyone of lying, it means he has lost the argument
What if he is right? You went along with the argument that healthcare reform is going to control costs. 0Bama was touting that at every stop. You heard that and you also heard all the new mandates he was was going to impose but you never asked how both could be done. What does that make you? Lier, accomplice, naive, stupid, blind? You tell me.
If the plan Obama first put forward would have passed - especially with the Public Option - then there would have been much quicker and better cost controls. But in an effort to first get Republican and the Blue Dog Democrat support, they bargained away the Public Option and most of the other features that would have best contained costs. To get the insurance companies to sign on, they had to put in the mandatory coverage requirement (without a Public Option that is the only way private insurers could afford to cover people with pre-existing conditions, for example). Thus the bill that finally passed congress is mostly about getting tens of millions of people covered that previously could not get coverage. The best cost containment elements of Obama's original plan were scrapped due to insistence by conservatives. Incidentally, I've explained this to you before.
Re: L.A. Times: "Health insurers pour money into GOP campaigns, hoping to limit new regulations" - $tevie - 10-06-2010
Dakota is putting words in my mouth. I refuse to write a response when someone says "you did this" and "you said that" and they have no idea what they are talking about. Not to mention, the question "What does that make you?" is not in reality a question and therefore merits no answer. Not to mention Dakota is a loser.
Re: L.A. Times: "Health insurers pour money into GOP campaigns, hoping to limit new regulations" - Grace62 - 10-06-2010
Dakota tell us the name of your insurance company and we can find out exactly how much of the 15.6% increase they are claiming is due to health reform law-related costs. We can also find out if their claims were reasonable and true, or not.
Your state is investigating all of its largest insurers over rate increases this year. Your state has the second weakest consumer protections around insurance rates (Hawaii is weakest) and the state is trying to do something about it.
Are you curious about what that increase is all about, or do you just believe everything you hear from this private for-profit company?
Re: L.A. Times: "Health insurers pour money into GOP campaigns, hoping to limit new regulations" - davester - 10-06-2010
Why do you folks continue to feed the troll? He never posts anything remotely logical. His sole goal appears to be to disrupt discussion by repeatedly posting provocative nonsense, not to engage in discussion or debate. The fact that the threads with the highest number of dakota posts are the ones that go on endlessly with dakota as the main topic prove that he is succeeding.
Re: L.A. Times: "Health insurers pour money into GOP campaigns, hoping to limit new regulations" - $tevie - 10-06-2010
Dakota is an attention whore, and I do have to admit that I fall for it all the time. Because it is difficult to watch someone post the stupidest.things.on.earth and not say something.
Re: L.A. Times: "Health insurers pour money into GOP campaigns, hoping to limit new regulations" - August West - 10-06-2010
I just think he is an idiot.
Re: L.A. Times: "Health insurers pour money into GOP campaigns, hoping to limit new regulations" - $tevie - 10-06-2010
That, too.
Re: L.A. Times: "Health insurers pour money into GOP campaigns, hoping to limit new regulations" - Ted King - 10-06-2010
August West wrote:
I just think he is an idiot.
I don't think Dakota is at all mentally deficient, but, IMHO, he too often is either being deliberately obtuse to get a rise out of people and/or is just being sloppy in his thinking (even by the standards of this forum; such standards being quite low much of the time). When he is like that, which, unfortunately now seems to be even more common than at times in the past, I usually choose not to respond, but sometimes the impulse to do so is stronger than the part of me that pretty much knows there isn't any point. That said, I'll bet if I were to meet him in person, I'd find him to be at least an okay guy (as long as we stayed away from talking about politics).
Re: L.A. Times: "Health insurers pour money into GOP campaigns, hoping to limit new regulations" - kanesa - 10-06-2010
Dakota wrote:
This is a change, for the worse, from what I have now and 0bama is responsible for it. Not to mention the 15.6% rise. Besides, what am I doing debating the merits here? Half of my paycheck may go for premiums but hacks like you who have to cover for 0bama at any cost will come out and claim, and lie if you have to, that it has always been like this. Well, it hasn't.
Get a second job. Don't be so lazy. Or quit your job and get another job that gives you better benefits. All you do is whine and complain.