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Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Gutenberg - 11-30-2008
AlphaDog wrote:
I'm sorry, JoeH, but your link to the birth notice won't cut it either. Can't you comprehend that this conspiracy began prior to Obama's birth, when a mystic predicted that in 47 years the child would be elevated to a position from which he could rule the world? His mother was warned that she must begin immediately to cloud his entire existence in secrecy.
There. Have I put this to rest finally? Almost 300 posts in five days over two different threads, in addition to previous discussions on exactly the same subject is even more bizarre than the conspiracy theory itself!
Barack Obama is Harry Potter? I missed that part.
Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Carnos Jax - 11-30-2008
Swampy & Samintx:
1) Do you believe that Obama's mother is a U. S. citizen, and by being so does not make him a citizen?
2) If so, what law do you believe supports your positions (a direct reference to the CFR's on the U. S. Government website would be helpful)?
3) Also, do y'all believe that McCain and Clinton had no interest to discredit Obama in regard to these issues?
Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Black Landlord - 11-30-2008
swampy wrote:
[quote=Ted King]
Clearly Obama would have had to have renounced his citizenship before he was 18 for the latter provision to have any bearing, but no one has provided any evidence that he did so, so the point is moot.
Here's a link to the school registration form declaring BHO as an Indonesian citizen(#3) and a Muslim (#4) and registered using his stepfather's sir name.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-photo-shows-obama-listed-as-muslim
"This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy’s religion as Islam.(AP Photo/ Tatan Syuflana)"
Swampy, what's your opinion on the veracity of the information in this registration form? Sorry, my previous question must have got buried.
Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Black Landlord - 11-30-2008
And can anyone verify, besides these ads, what exactly we're waiting for?
Wasn't there some court thing that was supposed to happen 12/1?
Is that the one that was rescheduled for 12/5?
Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - PeterB - 11-30-2008
swampy wrote:
[quote=PeterB]
Oy. I don't know what to say to that... I think Carnos may have a point. It seems like this is really getting nutty, when you don't even trust the state officials to certify a state document. Of course this could go to the SCOTUS, but I doubt very much whether they'd hear the argument-- it's likely to be thrown out in a lesser court long before it made it to that point, as has already happened.
http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx
"11/19/08 - Justice Thomas has decided to move Donofrio's case to conference on December 5th. All 9 United States Supreme Court Justices will look at case and determine to 1) grant motion, 2) dismiss motion, or 3) hold a hearing on the motion. This is a serious deal and still at the MSM house, not a creature was stirring; not even a mouse! Amazing! This is blatent control of the press to keep the people of America in the dark about this issue."
Ah, but it may get thrown out at that point. If you notice the history of this particular suit, it has already been thrown out twice. I find it interesting that this is the same party that has always complained about "frivolous lawsuits".
Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - swampy - 11-30-2008
Black Landlord wrote:
[quote=swampy]
[quote=Ted King]
Clearly Obama would have had to have renounced his citizenship before he was 18 for the latter provision to have any bearing, but no one has provided any evidence that he did so, so the point is moot.
Here's a link to the school registration form declaring BHO as an Indonesian citizen(#3) and a Muslim (#4) and registered using his stepfather's sir name.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-photo-shows-obama-listed-as-muslim
"This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy’s religion as Islam.(AP Photo/ Tatan Syuflana)"
Swampy, what's your opinion on the veracity of the information in this registration form? Sorry, my previous question must have got buried.
Veracity? About as much as you could give to any AP stringer. I leave it to the SCOTUS.
Edit: Here's a link with some background on Syuflana.
http://smithfiles.com/2008/08/14/breaking-photo-documents-barry-soetoro-obama-indonesian-citizen-muslim-religion/
Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - swampy - 11-30-2008
Black Landlord wrote:
And can anyone verify, besides these ads, what exactly we're waiting for?
Wasn't there some court thing that was supposed to happen 12/1?
Is that the one that was rescheduled for 12/5?
I think Berg's case is to have a decision 12/1, the Donofrino case 12/5.
Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Black Landlord - 11-30-2008
swampy wrote:
[quote=Black Landlord]
[quote=swampy]
[quote=Ted King]
Clearly Obama would have had to have renounced his citizenship before he was 18 for the latter provision to have any bearing, but no one has provided any evidence that he did so, so the point is moot.
Here's a link to the school registration form declaring BHO as an Indonesian citizen(#3) and a Muslim (#4) and registered using his stepfather's sir name.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-photo-shows-obama-listed-as-muslim
"This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy’s religion as Islam.(AP Photo/ Tatan Syuflana)"
Swampy, what's your opinion on the veracity of the information in this registration form? Sorry, my previous question must have got buried.
Veracity? About as much as you could give to any AP stringer. I leave it to the SCOTUS.
Edit: Here's a link with some background on Syuflana.
http://smithfiles.com/2008/08/14/breaking-photo-documents-barry-soetoro-obama-indonesian-citizen-muslim-religion/
I'm asking because you gave this registration form as evidence that Obama was an indonesian citizen, yet it says he was born in Honolulu, which you dispute. So I guess I'm confused as to why you would site this particluar document.
Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Black Landlord - 11-30-2008
swampy wrote:
[quote=Black Landlord]
And can anyone verify, besides these ads, what exactly we're waiting for?
Wasn't there some court thing that was supposed to happen 12/1?
Is that the one that was rescheduled for 12/5?
I think Berg's case is to have a decision 12/1, the Donofrino case 12/5.
So tomorrow is the big news day? Wasn't the original certificate to be produced on the 1st?
Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - swampy - 11-30-2008
I just found this and it is another interesting twist to the Mystery of Obama.
http://www.iardc.org/ldetail.asp?id=707174957
This is from Lawyer Search. Obama did not list any "other names". No Barry Soetoro?
Just when was Barry Soetoro going to tell the us about his Indonesian citizenship and adopted name?
Like I say, interesting how he has long been hiding and obfuscating his past.