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Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - rgG - 11-30-2008

Unfortunately, it is time for this image again.




Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Gutenberg - 11-30-2008

I never knew that Gerald Ford had an alias too! Look at this!

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128025.html

How come all these Republican presidents have such shady pasts! Reagan and Nixon came from California which isn't really a state:

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,613016,615132#msg-615132

And now Gerald Ford had an alias! His real name was Leslie Lynch King Jr.! He didn't formally change his name till he was 22!


Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Black Landlord - 11-30-2008

Alas, this was only the second-stupidist event in Birth Certificatestan this week.
LOL!


Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - swampy - 11-30-2008

BL..."I'm asking because you gave this registration form as evidence that Obama was an indonesian citizen, yet it says he was born in Honolulu, which you dispute. So I guess I'm confused as to why you would site this particluar document."

I cite this document because it leads me to believe that Obama became an Indonesian citizen under Indonesian law when his stepfather registered him as an Indonesian using Barry Soetoro as his legal name.

I'm not disputing that Obama might have been born in Hawaii as much as disputing the fact that we don't know. He might have been born on the moon, but we don't know because his mother could, under law, apply for a Certification of Live Birth (if he was born in Kenya) for up to a year. In this case there would be a short form because there would be no named hospital of birth, and lack the doctor and witness signatures. He gets the Certificantion (short) form based on his MOTHER's citizenship, but not necessarily a designation of 'natural born' if no one can attest to where in Hawaii he was born.

I'll really muddy up the water and say that even "Fight the Smears" claimed that Obama was a Kenyan citizen by virtue of his Father.

This link discusses that as well as a screen shot of the FTS page in case it has gone down the memory hole.

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2008/09/obamas-kenyan-citizenship-expired.html

When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982
.”

Before you get your panties in a wad... I recognize that his Kenyan "citizenship" expired, but I just want clarification. WHO is BHO? Why all the obfuscation, sealing records, disowning his past?


Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Black Landlord - 11-30-2008

swampy wrote:
BL..."I'm asking because you gave this registration form as evidence that Obama was an indonesian citizen, yet it says he was born in Honolulu, which you dispute. So I guess I'm confused as to why you would site this particluar document."

I cite this document because it leads me to believe that Obama became an Indonesian citizen under Indonesian law when his stepfather registered him as an Indonesian using Barry Soetoro as his legal name.

I'm not disputing that Obama might have been born in Hawaii as much as disputing the fact that we don't know. He might have been born on the moon, but we don't know because his mother could, under law, apply for a Certification of Live Birth (if he was born in Kenya) for up to a year. In this case there would be a short form because there would be no named hospital of birth, and lack the doctor and witness signatures. He gets the Certificantion (short) form based on his MOTHER's citizenship, but not necessarily a designation of 'natural born' if no one can attest to where in Hawaii he was born.

I'll really muddy up the water and say that even "Fight the Smears" claimed that Obama was a Kenyan citizen by virtue of his Father.

This link discusses that as well as a screen shot of the FTS page in case it has gone down the memory hole.

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2008/09/obamas-kenyan-citizenship-expired.html

When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982
.”

Before you get your panties in a wad... I recognize that his Kenyan "citizenship" expired, but I just want clarification. WHO is BHO? Why all the obfuscation, sealing records, disowning his past?

This reminds me of my first home inspection.
The inspector didn't find a crack in the foundation. He didn't find major stuctural problems. No termite infestation. He didn't declare the house was going to burn down unless the entire electrical system was replaced. He didn't find mold or radon gas.

I was pissed. I still want my money back.


Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Carnos Jax - 11-30-2008

Swampy, do you not believe McCain or Clinton would've 'vetted' these things out already?


Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Gutenberg - 11-30-2008

Does anyone think that swampy really believes this chaff she is throwing into the wind, or is she just hoping that some of the chaff irritates us?


Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Ted King - 11-30-2008

Gutenberg wrote:
Does anyone think that swampy really believes this chaff she is throwing into the wind, or is she just hoping that some of the chaff irritates us?

I think there is a very distinct possibility of the latter. It's a little hard to accept that someone who in some respects seems basically together enough could be that obtuse.


Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - swampy - 11-30-2008

Gutenberg wrote:
Does anyone think that swampy really believes this chaff she is throwing into the wind, or is she just hoping that some of the chaff irritates us?

Unlike you, Gutenberg, I have not closed my mind to the possiblity.


Re: Full Page Ad to Appear in Chicago Trib - Spock - 11-30-2008

Gutenberg wrote:
Does anyone think that swampy really believes this chaff she is throwing into the wind, or is she just hoping that some of the chaff irritates us?

She's being an ignoranus.