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No surprise to me - $tevie - 05-12-2011
I have believed for years that bin Laden was functioning as a Boogeyman to keep us from questioning our foreign policy and the DHS -- the former administration did not want to end the convenient PR angle that a living bin Laden offered.
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/05/former-colin-powell-chief-of-staff-bush-didnt-want-to-get-bin-laden/?utm_source=Raw+Story+Daily+Update&utm_campaign=26b8c7e09b-5_12_115_12_2011&utm_medium=email
Re: No surprise to me - Grace62 - 05-12-2011
I think a lot of things were at play in the Bush admin not catching him:
lack of cooperation from frenemies like Pakistan, poor intelligence causing them to look in the wrong places, general lack of focus due to competing foreign policy initiatives like Iraq, and perhaps too lack of will. None of it worked in their favor, that's for sure.
Re: No surprise to me - mrbigstuff - 05-12-2011
Yes, a lot of things, but none so much as the overriding feeling that offing OBL would have taken the wind out of the Iraq and Patriot Act sails.
Re: No surprise to me - Gutenberg - 05-12-2011
Considering the huge amount of information gained from the raid on Bin Laden's compound, how can the Bush Administration argue that it was trying to keep us safe? Did they not consider the information they could get from finding Bin Laden?
The disruption in Al Qaeda's activities alone is worth the price of admission on that raid. Look for more raids soon.
Re: No surprise to me - cbelt3 - 05-12-2011
Yes, President Obama is a much more militarily aggressive president than Bush.....
Oh.. wait... :confused:
Re: No surprise to me - Grace62 - 05-12-2011
Great interview with Gen. Petraues aired on Frontline last week. It was taped in january, so pre-OBL killing, but there is quite a lot of foreshadowing of that. Good info on Afghanistan, though I find it all quite discouraging/depressing.
Frontline: But there have been others who were arrested at the time who have been since released, and there is at least the allegation that the Pakistanis do know where quite a few of these other leaders are. Do you think they could actually make more of an impact in, for example, putting pressure on the leaders of Quetta shura [leadership council] who are living within their borders?
Gen. Petraeus: We've actually had conversations on this very recently, and in fact there has been a request for information and so forth and pledges that there is a willingness to see what's possible, and so we will see.
Read more: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/kill-capture/interviews/david-petraeus.html#2#ixzz1M9cOcNYl
Re: No surprise to me - Mac1337 - 05-12-2011
Now I understand how a Democrat could drop the A-bomb on Japan. Libs can be very vicious if it is their man who is doing it.
Re: No surprise to me - seeing.the.unseeable - 05-12-2011
Dakota wrote:
Now I understand how a Democrat could drop the A-bomb on Japan. Libs can be very vicious if it is their man who is doing it.
Yawn ...
The President of the United States is the President of all Americans, Dak.
A lot of people would be singing a very different tune right now if any of this was happening on W's 'watch.'
Re: No surprise to me - $tevie - 05-12-2011
Only stupid people fall for the old saw that Democrats won't wage war. A fourth grade history text book disproves it.
Re: No surprise to me - Mac1337 - 05-12-2011
Actually they do, quite frequently in fact, and lose most of them.