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Ethernet Cable installing jacks etc. - Kraniac - 05-28-2006
HI,
Im going to run some cat5e from my upstairs comp to my work space...150 feet away.
Do I need any special tools for installing male jacks on the ends of the cable?
Any other tips, complete lessons and how toooos would be appreciated.
Particularily, the color order for placing wires into the jacks.
Thanks
Re: Ethernet Cable installing jacks etc. - Ken Sp. - 05-28-2006
You could just get some Cat5e or Cat 6 cable and get the punch style jacks. The you can just get a cheap punch to punch the wires down to the punch jack on the wall plate.
FYI--You will really only be using 4 of the 8 wires.
Another option is to get a 150-200 ft cable with male RJ45ends on it-and just plug them in on both ends.
http://yoda.uvi.edu/InfoTech/rj45.htm
http://www.winnpsb.org/Tutorials/RJ45/default.htm
Re: Ethernet Cable installing jacks etc. - mattkime - 05-28-2006
the punch style male jacks aren't too bad but make sure you pay close attention to the directions on how to wire it and how the other end needs to be wired.
>>FYI--You will really only be using 4 of the 8 wires.
not true for 100Mbit or gigabit ethernet.
Re: Ethernet Cable installing jacks etc. - The Grim Ninja - 05-28-2006
2 Pair for 10/100
4 pair for 1000
Re: Ethernet Cable installing jacks etc. - C(-)ris - 05-28-2006
There is no reason, other than pure lazyness to not punch down all the wires. If you do the wall jacks, it really doesn't matter what order you do the cables, just so long as it is the same order on both ends.
Re: Ethernet Cable installing jacks etc. - The Grim Ninja - 05-28-2006
If you do the wall jacks, it doesn't matter which order you do the PAIRS. Just so long as the pair order is the same on both ends.
Doing signals out of pairs give an opportunity to add a lot of interference due to the lack of matched twists. (The twisting of the wires helps eliminate interference). With a cable run 150 feet, that could be a sizable amount of interference.
Re: Ethernet Cable installing jacks etc. - sscutchen - 05-28-2006
The easiest way to do it is to buy long pre-made up Cat 5 cable with male RJ45s on both ends. Then use a Keystone wall plate like this:
http://www.bandacomputer.com/storefrontprofiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=102895&c=0&i=2415044
and then use a female-female keystone jack insert into the plate like this:
http://www.showmecables.com/productDetailsPopUp.asp?idproduct=2573
Then, simply use the long cat 5 cable to run from the back of one wall plate to another.
You can get multiple hole keystone plates as well.
For example, if you have existing phone drops in each room or maybe cable drops, you can get RJ11 or cable Keystone inserts and double up in the existing wall boxes:
http://www.bandacomputer.com/storefrontprofiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=102895&c=0&i=51271931 http://www.bandacomputer.com/storefrontprofiles/DeluxeSFItemDetail.aspx?sid=1&sfid=102895&c=0&i=51271931
Re: Ethernet Cable installing jacks etc. - mikebw - 05-29-2006
I seriously doubt that you could achieve 100Mbps connectivity through Cat3 (or 2 Pairs of wire), but please prove me wrong if you can. For years I have been working with installing cat5e, and I am almost 100% certain that if you were to connect a cat3 cable to a 10/100 autosensing hub or switch, that that port would only operate at 10Mbps.
Re: Ethernet Cable installing jacks etc. - ADent - 05-29-2006
I had some 1972 6 wire phone cables running upstairs in the old house. Solid core, I think it had some twists. Was Cat 3 around in 1972?
So I used the one pair for the phone. And the other two pair for 10BT (actually had it setup for Phonenet/Appletalk first). When I upgraded to 100BT I figured it would puke and I could force 10BT.
100BT worked fine. Noticed no different thruput or errors or such.
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I use those Leviton jacks at Home Depot. They punch down and if you are going into a wall you can use the wall holder things shown above - they come in 1-6 jacks. In the basement I used the surface mount boxes they sell - I think 4 or 6 holes?
Anyways they are kinda pricey, so if you are doing a lot of cabling a crimper would be better.
The new house got Cat 5e and one run from upstairs to the basement was well over 100ft.