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White MacBook 4GB to 6GB RAM - Noticeable difference? - magicmikey - 05-06-2012
I have a 2008 White MacBook 2.4 gHz, with 4GB RAM and a 7200 RPM hard drive. I use Photoshop quite regularly and am noticing some lagging when running certain actions, as well as when working with Adobe Camera Raw.
I know a new MacBook Pro with an i5 or i7 processor would be a huge help (my son has the 13" MacBook Pro from last summer with an i5 processor and it blows the doors off my MacBook) but it's not in the budget right now.
My question is how much of a boost would I see with an increase to 6GB of RAM. OWC has a 4GB module for my MacBook for $94. The maximum I can go is 6GB. I'm just wondering if it would help much. I know it's a 50% increase in RAM but I'm not sure it's enough.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Thanks,
Michael
Re: White MacBook 4GB to 6GB RAM - Noticeable difference? - jdc - 05-06-2012
Im gonna say no. I do have some questions that might influence my answer as to how the best way to speed up your MB...
How big and how full is your drive? Do you use an external for storage?
Are you shooting RAW? Have you considered whether or not you need to?
Re: White MacBook 4GB to 6GB RAM - Noticeable difference? - sekker - 05-06-2012
You'll get a bigger speed jump going to an SSD.
Re: White MacBook 4GB to 6GB RAM - Noticeable difference? - magicmikey - 05-06-2012
My hard drive is 320GB. It's currently 2/3 full but I'm about to move the photos to a 1TB external FireWire drive. I do shoot RAW primarily. My interest is in reducing the time it takes for me to process in Photoshop. Every time I open a RAW image, It takes about 3-4 seconds for an image to open up in Camera Raw from Bridge and that's using the mRAW setting on my Canon 7D (approximately 10 megapixels - regular RAW is 18 megapixels.) I usually have to work on 150 - 200 photos at a time and the delay in opening the files in ACR and then waiting while running Noiseware really starts to add up after a while.
sekker,
While an SSD will speed up the opening of the applications, it doesn't really speed up the use of Photoshop unless you use the SSD for the scratch disk. Increased RAM gives a bigger performance boost, according to Adobe.
It sounds like I'll just have to wait until I can afford a new Mac. (I want a quad core i7 iMac with 16GB of RAM!)
Thanks for the input.
Re: White MacBook 4GB to 6GB RAM - Noticeable difference? - sekker - 05-06-2012
SSD will speed up file opening times.
PS is also a hog - so if you are using a decent-sized file, it'll always use a scratch disk.
If I had a choice between a machine with 8 GB RAM plus a hard drive versus a 4GB RAM plus a 256GB SSD (with 100 GB free), I'd take the SSD any day for a serious PS project where the file is 100 MB plus lots of layers and a full history. If you are just modifying smaller PS files, 4GB of RAM is fine so long as you are not running a ton of other apps at the same time.
Re: White MacBook 4GB to 6GB RAM - Noticeable difference? - anonymouse1 - 05-06-2012
Another vote for SSD, and use it for scratch.
Of course, you can get the RAM stick for under $50, on Ebay, if you know what you're looking for. Probably worth a try.
Re: White MacBook 4GB to 6GB RAM - Noticeable difference? - magicmikey - 05-06-2012
sekker wrote:
SSD will speed up file opening times.
PS is also a hog - so if you are using a decent-sized file, it'll always use a scratch disk.
If I had a choice between a machine with 8 GB RAM plus a hard drive versus a 4GB RAM plus a 256GB SSD (with 100 GB free), I'd take the SSD any day for a serious PS project where the file is 100 MB plus lots of layers and a full history. If you are just modifying smaller PS files, 4GB of RAM is fine so long as you are not running a ton of other apps at the same time.
My files are nowhere near 100 MB so maybe the SSD is the way to go.
Thanks.
Re: White MacBook 4GB to 6GB RAM - Noticeable difference? - AllGold - 05-06-2012
I doubt it will help much, if at all.
Take a look at Activity Monitor sometime when you're running PS they way you normally do. Look at the System Memory tab. It will show five categories of memory: Free, Wired, Active, Inactive, and Used. Free and Inactive can be added together to see how much you have available. If you have a decent amount available when you're working PS then adding more RAM won't help.
Also, look at the Page outs. If there are lots and lots of Page outs that means you have a lot of memory data being swapped out to disk (meaning you need more RAM) and disk swaps will really slow you down.
Re: White MacBook 4GB to 6GB RAM - Noticeable difference? - jdc - 05-06-2012
do you need to be portable? even a $600 mini would crush your old MB.
Sell it for $500, then pickup a base mini for another $100. Drop 16 gigs of ram in the mini (about $100) and stop waiting.
You are aware than current iMacs can take 32 gigs of ram...
I still wonder if you *need* to shoot raw. Or if you could shoot RAW + jpeg.
Although old, heres an interesting article on it: http://www.slrlounge.com/raw-vs-jpeg-jpg-the-ultimate-visual-guide
Re: White MacBook 4GB to 6GB RAM - Noticeable difference? - Jimmypoo - 05-07-2012
DO IT.
Macbook Late 2007 / GMA 965 - x3100 STOPPED ALL BEACHBALLS IN SAFARI and application switching
the moment it was installed.
Will an SSD accomplish the same thing? Good question. Since my screen still burns bright, despite the fact
it is only a SATA I port (like yours) the potential to triple HD speed and virtual memory performance is
significant.
But nobody out there should be fooled into thinking that having virtual memory at 180MB/sec is going to
compare to and extra 2GB of RAM moving at micro-seconds.