+- MacResource (https://forums.macresource.com)
+-- Forum: My Category (https://forums.macresource.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: Tips and Deals (https://forums.macresource.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=3)
+--- Thread: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light... (/showthread.php?tid=170842)
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light... - Buzz - 09-07-2014
Bought a couple of the Cree 100W equiv LED's awhile back, $20 for 2700K soft white, $21 for 5000K daylight from Home Depot. Did a trial run at a few desired locations, and came to the conclusion the daylight bulb is not for us. The soft white turns out to be not all that soft after all, but is a workable bulb, though nowhere near the color fidelity of the amazing halogen bulbs intended to be replaced. 'Nuff said, the daylight was a go-back. Fast forward a couple of months...
Then, earlier today on a quickie pit stop at Costco, I snagged a Feit 100W equiv 2700K soft white that popped up on the shelf for $16, after not having been there as recently as a few days ago. Similar specs size/wattage/lumens/lifespan, etc., but the Feit's color fidelity is significantly better than the Cree's. The Cree's bulb is more translucent than the Feit's, which is noticeably whiter and more opaque when off. The Cree also has some sort of tackified/rubbery coating on the bulb, while the Feit does not. Hands on "feel" for heft/quality of manufacture actually favors the Cree, but I'm going back to Costco to pick up another couple of Feit's. They're about $10 more online, so maybe I'll but the store's entire inventory...
:-)
FWIW, we did not have great luck w/ Feit CFL's, and jury is still out on lower wattage LED's, but w/ this 100W equiv, it appears Cree has some catching up to do. Light Wars™ are ON!
==
Re: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light... - ztirffritz - 09-07-2014
I have a bunch of the Feits too. Costco had them with a rebate a while back. I love them.
Re: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light... - N-OS X-tasy! - 09-07-2014
I've been running half a dozen of the Feit 60W equivalents from Costco for over a year now with no issue - I love them. I've been waiting for them to come out with a 100W equivalent; if they are as good as the 60W equivalents, I will be very happy.
Re: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light... - Black - 09-07-2014
Buzz wrote:
Bought a couple of the Cree 100W equiv LED's awhile back, $20 for 2700K soft white, $21 for 5000K daylight from Home Depot. Did a trial run at a few desired locations, and came to the conclusion the daylight bulb is not for us. The soft white turns out to be not all that soft after all, but is a workable bulb, though nowhere near the color fidelity of the amazing halogen bulbs intended to be replaced. 'Nuff said, the daylight was a go-back. Fast forward a couple of months...
Then, earlier today on a quickie pit stop at Costco, I snagged a Feit 100W equiv 2700K soft white that popped up on the shelf for $16, after not having been there as recently as a few days ago. Similar specs size/wattage/lumens/lifespan, etc., but the Feit's color fidelity is significantly better than the Cree's. The Cree's bulb is more translucent than the Feit's, which is noticeably whiter and more opaque when off. The Cree also has some sort of tackified/rubbery coating on the bulb, while the Feit does not. Hands on "feel" for heft/quality of manufacture actually favors the Cree, but I'm going back to Costco to pick up another couple of Feit's. They're about $10 more online, so maybe I'll but the store's entire inventory...
:-)
FWIW, we did not have great luck w/ Feit CFL's, and jury is still out on lower wattage LED's, but w/ this 100W equiv, it appears Cree has some catching up to do. Light Wars™ are ON!
==
Your findings are consistent with my own experience with FEIT LED bulbs-- they tend to be a hair cooler than touted.
"Warm" white (=incandescent equivalent) is around 2700 K; Halogen is closer to 3000 or 3100. Thus you're finding the bulbs that are not as warm as rated to be more like Halogen.
Re: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light... - Bimwad - 09-07-2014
I still waiting for the 100W equivalents to see some price cuts.
My utility doesn't subsidize the Cree bulbs, so when I found myself inside a Home Despot while away on vacation, I was kinda tempted to pick up one or two at half the price.
Aside from a Philips CFL that I paid $15 for, and still needed to have warrantied prematurely, I have yet to have a CFL meet its expected lifetime rating, or last appreciably longer than a plain old bulb.
I'm afraid that these LED replacements will be the same way, and aside from energy consumption, these new types of lights are at a disadvantage to the old incandescents in every other respect, while adding some annoyances of their own.
Re: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light... - Racer X - 09-07-2014
I agree, if my 10,000 hour CFLs are lasting 2500, who is getting the CFLs that last 40,000?
Re: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light... - Bimwad - 09-07-2014
And lest anyone think I'm one of those incandescent-hoarding luddites, I'm not.
But the disadvantages aren't as heavily outweighed by the advantages that were promised, one of them being extended life. Yet they require additional upfront cost, require careful recycling, suffer under normal duty conditions, and have poorer light quality.
Other recent household advancements haven't fared as poorly. Modern washers and refridgerators are expensive, but do make palpable differences in terms of resource and cost savings, while carrying few, if any, additional compromises.
As Clara asked, "where's the beef?"
Re: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light... - sekker - 09-07-2014
Felt CFLs have given that technology a bad reputation.
I redid my entire house seven years ago with mostly CFLs.
At year four, I rounded up the defective bulbs for recycling - they were all one style Felt except for a bulb I dropped onto the floor.
All of my other brands have been great, including those that get used all the time and are in ceiling fans, etc.
Re: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light... - Fritz - 09-07-2014
we have a mix of brands and types, but we waaaaaay prefer the LED over the CFL. The only CFL or Edisons we have are the outdoor floods. But when they burn out, I will change them too.
Indoors I'd guess we're 75% LED and equal split of the rest. When they burn they'll get changed as well.
Hoping to find circleline replacements for the bulbs in the ceiling fans.
We have 4 candleabras bulbs that are up-firing. The LED replacements don't give off enough light ........ yet.
I've had mediocre results with bulb life on the CFLs.
Re: And God said, Let there be light: and there was light... - Filliam H. Muffman - 09-07-2014
Racer X wrote:
I agree, if my 10,000 hour CFLs are lasting 2500, who is getting the CFLs that last 40,000?
Not 40,000 but after I had 4 out of 12 die quickly, the rest of my CFLs have lasted about 15,000. One of my three LEDs died about 6,000, the other two are still going.