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9/11/01 - the F16's were Kamikazi's. - Ombligo - 09-11-2014
When the Air National guard scrambled two F-16's to intercept United Flight 93, neither plane had any ammunition or missiles. The pilots were going to ram the passenger jet to bring it down.
“We wouldn’t be shooting it down. We’d be ramming the aircraft,” Lt. Heather “Lucky” Penney recalls of her charge that day. “I would essentially be a kamikaze pilot.”
As remarkable as it seems now, there were no armed aircraft standing by and no system in place to scramble them over Washington. Before that morning, all eyes were looking outward, still scanning the old Cold War threat paths for planes and missiles coming over the polar ice cap.
As Penney and her commanding officer, Col. Marc Sasseville were gearing up in the pre-flight life-support area, Sasseville met her eye, “I’m going to go for the cockpit."
She replied without hesitating, “I’ll take the tail.”
It was a plan. And a pact. Neither pilot had to follow that plan as the passengers aboard United Flight 93 had their own pact.
The full story is at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/f-16-pilot-was-ready-to-give-her-life-on-sept-11/2011/09/06/gIQAMpcODK_story.html
Re: 9/11/01 - the F16's were Kamikazi's. - cbelt3 - 09-11-2014
Not a surprise. US military personnel are damn brave.
Also not a surprise... armed CAP went away with SAC. I expect it's back now.
Re: 9/11/01 - the F16's were Kamikazi's. - Paul F. - 09-11-2014
If not having an armed CAP, at least having some ordnance ON THE BASE to strap on in case of need.
Re: 9/11/01 - the F16's were Kamikazi's. - davester - 09-11-2014
cbelt3 wrote:
Not a surprise. US military personnel are damn brave.
Also not a surprise... armed CAP went away with SAC. I expect it's back now.
Is this the cool macho dude thing...citing military abbreviations without saying what they are.
Re: 9/11/01 - the F16's were Kamikazi's. - Ombligo - 09-11-2014
CAP - Combat Air Patrol (Fighters on a combat mission)
SAC - Strategic Air Command (in the cold war days, these were the bombers)
Re: 9/11/01 - the F16's were Kamikazi's. - raz - 09-11-2014
davester wrote:
[quote=cbelt3]
Not a surprise. US military personnel are damn brave.
Also not a surprise... armed CAP went away with SAC. I expect it's back now.
Is this the cool macho dude thing...citing military abbreviations without saying what they are.
Yes. That's SOP.
Re: 9/11/01 - the F16's were Kamikazi's. - freeradical - 09-11-2014
raz wrote:
[quote=davester]
[quote=cbelt3]
Not a surprise. US military personnel are damn brave.
Also not a surprise... armed CAP went away with SAC. I expect it's back now.
Is this the cool macho dude thing...citing military abbreviations without saying what they are.
Yes. That's SOP.
FTW
Re: 9/11/01 - the F16's were Kamikazi's. - rjmacs - 09-11-2014
freeradical wrote:
[quote=raz]
[quote=davester]
[quote=cbelt3]
Not a surprise. US military personnel are damn brave.
Also not a surprise... armed CAP went away with SAC. I expect it's back now.
Is this the cool macho dude thing...citing military abbreviations without saying what they are.
Yes. That's SOP.
FTW
WTF LOL
Re: 9/11/01 - the F16's were Kamikazi's. - deckeda - 09-11-2014
rjmacs wrote:
[quote=freeradical]
[quote=raz]
[quote=davester]
[quote=cbelt3]
Not a surprise. US military personnel are damn brave.
Also not a surprise... armed CAP went away with SAC. I expect it's back now.
Is this the cool macho dude thing...citing military abbreviations without saying what they are.
Yes. That's SOP.
FTW
WTF LOL
SNAFU avoided?
Re: 9/11/01 - the F16's were Kamikazi's. - Rick-o - 09-11-2014
Adrian Cronauer: Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.