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"Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit" - mrlynn - 03-25-2015

Startling development, if true:

Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit Before Crash in France

PARIS — As officials struggled Wednesday to explain why a jet with 150 people on board crashed in relatively clear skies, an investigator said evidence from a cockpit voice recorder indicated one pilot left the cockpit before the plane’s descent and was unable to get back in.

A senior military official involved in the investigation described “very smooth, very cool” conversation between the pilots during the early part of the flight from Barcelona to Düsseldorf. Then the audio indicated that one of the pilots left the cockpit and could not re-enter.

“The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door and there is no answer,” the investigator said. “And then he hits the door stronger and no answer. There is never an answer.”

He said, “You can hear he is trying to smash the door down.”

While the audio seemed to give some insight into the circumstances leading up to the crash, it also left many questions unanswered.

"We don’t know yet the reason why one of the guys went out,” said the official, who requested anonymity because the investigation is continuing. "But what is sure is that at the very end of the flight, the other pilot is alone and does not open the door". . .


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html?_r=0

/Mr Lynn


Re: "Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit" - rgG - 03-25-2015

Oh wow.


Re: "Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit" - silvarios - 03-26-2015

Seems like an ominous discovery, but perhaps the pilot still inside had a medical emergency and could not respond?


Re: "Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit" - max - 03-26-2015

Well, at least we know that A-320 cockpit doors are truly unbreakable, as advertised, without any secret backdoors...


Re: "Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit" - Lemon Drop - 03-26-2015

If true, that's really creepy and strange.

Agence France Presse is saying that the contents of the second black box are "missing."
http://www.france24.com/en/20150325-france-gremanwings-plane-crash-hollande-merkel-rajoy-investigation-victims/

Shouldn't the pilot have a key or code to get back in if the door is locked? That seems like a very basic safety step.


Re: "Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit" - Acer - 03-26-2015

Lemon Drop wrote:
Shouldn't the pilot have a key or code to get back in if the door is locked? That seems like a very basic safety step.

Perhaps they don't so that a terrorist can't force the pilot or take his key to open the door.


Re: "Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit" - mrlynn - 03-26-2015

silvarios wrote:
Seems like an ominous discovery, but perhaps the pilot still inside had a medical emergency and could not respond?

Yes, sudden cockpit depressurization, remaining pilot attempts descent before passing out.

Sure hope it wasn't deliberate. The one thing that's always reassured me about flying was that the pilot had no more interest in dying than I did.

/Mr Lynn


Re: "Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit" - Lemon Drop - 03-26-2015

Acer wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
Shouldn't the pilot have a key or code to get back in if the door is locked? That seems like a very basic safety step.

Perhaps they don't so that a terrorist can't force the pilot or take his key to open the door.
Good point - I have a feeling we're about to learn everything there is to know about cockpit door security.


Re: "Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit" - N-OS X-tasy! - 03-26-2015

No bueno.


Re: "Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit" - Lemon Drop - 03-26-2015

why isn't flight data uploaded to the internet?