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The End of the Camera? - mrlynn - 09-11-2019
Camera sales are falling sharply
Camera sales are continuing to falling off a cliff. The latest data from the Camera & Imaging Products Association (CIPA) shows them in a swoon befitting a Bollywood roadside Romeo. All four big camera brands — Sony, Fuji, Canon, and Nikon — are reposting rapid declines. And it is not just the point and shoot cameras whose sales are collapsing. We also see sales of higher-end DSLR cameras stall. And — wait for it — even mirrorless cameras, which were supposed to be a panacea for all that ails the camera business, are heading south. . .
https://om.co/2019/09/03/camera-sales-are-falling-sharply/
But. . . I don't want to use a camera without a viewfinder!
/Mr Lynn
Re: The End of the Camera? - space-time - 09-11-2019
When I go somewhere and I ask a stranger to take a picture of us with our dSLR, I have to explained to them where to look and to push hard 90% of the times. It got so bad that I think of lugging around a tripod and a remote.
And someone else with a dSLR asked me to take a picture of them because it seems like I know what I am doing. I guess they had similar experiences.
And cell phones pictures get better and better, or at least good enough. And the camera you have on you is better than the dSLR at home/in-the-car, etc.
Re: The End of the Camera? - mrbigstuff - 09-11-2019
every item of every variety is decreasing in number. we have reached "peak stuff" and the used market is easier than ever to access at a click. I read this same story of guitars recently and we all know about car sales, computer sales, etc.
Re: The End of the Camera? - sekker - 09-11-2019
Didn't Price post how a $300 used camera took great photos?
We have a DSLR and an SX50 - both are only used now for projects, we don't carry them even on a vacation.
The new iPhones represent the future, even though a good DSLR from a few years ago will be better. 'Better' is only incremental. For many, a decent color-matched 2MP image is fine.
Re: The End of the Camera? - pRICE cUBE - 09-11-2019
The end of entry level to mid level point and shoot cameras will likely disappear.
Mirror-less interchangeable cameras will also likely end entry level DSLR.
DSLR camera makers will reap what they sowed in gouging customers at the height of the DSLR boom. I have a long memory of what Canon and Nikon did during the boom. Increasing prices beyond inflation for unimproved products still has me steaming.
Re: The End of the Camera? - NewtonMP2100 - 09-11-2019
....you can't take selfies with a regular camera.....!!!!!
Re: The End of the Camera? - space-time - 09-11-2019
NewtonMP2100 wrote:
....you can't take selfies with a regular camera.....!!!!!
LOL, so true. But they did have some cameras with 2 screens, a small screen in the front for selfies. The real issue is that you cannot easily post those selfies on facebook and instagram.
Re: The End of the Camera? - mrlynn - 09-11-2019
I didn't try posting the sales chart from that article, because it was huge, but it was scary! Take a look at it.
I've been thinking of buying a light, but good camera for travel. I've got my Rebel T2i+Tamron 18-270, and my SX50, but the Rebel is heavy and while I use the SX50 for birds and some walkabout, I don't like it. Got my eye on the newish Canon M50 mirrorless, although the 15-45 kit lens isn't much, and the longer lens they sell in a kit in the UK (which you can get here in the USA), an 18-150, will be a little awkward to carry, it's still lighter than the DSLR. It's got the same sensor as the Rebel, and while it has an electronic viewfinder, it's a pretty good one.
I know people are taking fancy iPhones everywhere these days, and they take pretty good photos—even my iPhone 6 does—but I hate holding a camera out at arm's length and using a screen, and the reach is really limited. . .
Have to say this about the SX50: I couldn't have gotten this with a shorter lens:
Young Great Blue Herons in a rookery, maybe 75 yards away. Fuzzy, but still recognizable.
/Mr Lynn
Re: The End of the Camera? - graylocks - 09-11-2019
mrbigstuff wrote: we have reached "peak stuff" .
i used to read stories of celebrities getting mugged and losing thousands of dollars worth of stuff in the attack. my first thought was always a perplexed why are they walking around with that much stuff anyway. the other day i realized that considering my apple watch, iphone, and airpods i was walking around with over $1000 worth of stuff. and this was just to walk the dog. it made me kind of nervous TBH.
peak stuff, indeed.
Re: The End of the Camera? - Buzz - 09-11-2019
mrlynn wrote:
Have to say this about the SX50: I couldn't have gotten this with a shorter lens:
Young Great Blue Herons in a rookery, maybe 75 yards away. Fuzzy, but still recognizable.
/Mr Lynn
Right on! Still lovin' the SX40 after all these years.
Stuff you really can't shoot with an iPhone;
Picked Baby Buzz, handheld, out of the crowd at around 130 yards over seven years ago...
Little red bird in Maui, also handheld, at around 50-55 yards about five and half years ago...
Big red moon, 2 second exposure w/ timer on a tripod, at about 239,000 miles from January of this year...
When iPhones can pull these shots off, *maybe* I'll consider not taking a camera...
IOW, I'll likely get a SX90*, before trusting the iPhone 14 with all photo tasks.
*Canon is probably gonna have to rejigger their numbering system soon, so I don't know what the real model number is gonna be.
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