+- MacResource (https://forums.macresource.com)
+-- Forum: My Category (https://forums.macresource.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: 'Friendly' Political Ranting (https://forums.macresource.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=6)
+--- Thread: Senior with dementia and aphasia trades $14 worth of products for broken arm (/showthread.php?tid=255116)
Senior with dementia and aphasia trades $14 worth of products for broken arm - deckeda - 04-20-2021
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/20/karen-garner-video-loveland-criminal-probe/
“On June 26, Garner had gone to a Walmart near her home in Loveland, a town about 50 miles north of Denver, and then walked out with soda, candy, a T-shirt and cleaning supplies worth $13.88 without paying, according to her family’s lawsuit.
“Employees intercepted her outside and took the items back, refusing to take her credit card to pay for them. Confused, Garner left and started walking home.
“Walmart employees called police about the incident, but also told dispatchers that Garner was elderly and that they’d already recovered the merchandise.
“But when Hopp spotted her walking through a field near the road moments later, he aggressively moved to arrest her, body camera footage showed.
“ “I don’t think you want to play it this way,” he said as she walked away from him. Garner held her hands in the air, clutching the flowers she’d collected, and then continued walking. “Do you need to be arrested right now?” he asked.
“ Within seconds, Hopp grabbed her arms and began wrenching them backward to handcuff her. For several minutes, as Garner repeatedly cried that she was “going home,” he struggled with her on the ground, fighting to keep her hands behind her.
“Eventually Jalali arrived to help Hopp hold Garner against a cruiser as they continue fighting to pull her arms behind her.
“After Garner fell to the ground, a concerned bystander stopped to film the scene. “Do you have to use that much aggression?” the man can be heard asking in the bodycam video.
““Get out of here. This is not your business,” an officer replied.
“Prosecutors later dropped the charges against Garner.”
Re: Senior with dementia and aphasia trades $14 worth of products for broken arm - cbelt3 - 04-20-2021
Militarized officers whose training involves 'forced compliance'. The results will always be bad.
Re: Senior with dementia and aphasia trades $14 worth of products for broken arm - deckeda - 04-20-2021
cbelt3 wrote:
Militarized officers whose training involves 'forced compliance'. The results will always be bad.
Seems to be quite popular, and expected behavior. That’s the challenge of finding they’ve done “anything wrong.”
Re: Senior with dementia and aphasia trades $14 worth of products for broken arm - Lux Interior - 04-20-2021
The law is the law!
You surely aren't suggesting that we allow the subjects to get away with such blatant thievery?
The Walton's aren't running a charity! They need to feed their families, too!
Re: Senior with dementia and aphasia trades $14 worth of products for broken arm - Randalls - 04-20-2021
So they should have tazed her with a nine millimeter? Pretty sad.
Re: Senior with dementia and aphasia trades $14 worth of products for broken arm - cbelt3 - 04-20-2021
I'm a bit infamous for having memory issues thanks to gravity and hard surfaces. I once went through the self checkout at the grocery store and forgot to pay. And walked away. And a young cashier raced after me and told me that I had forgotten to pay. And I ran back and paid. And apologized profusely, and gave great praise to the young cart attendant who had noticed it and talked to his manager.
They didn't call the cops. They didn't have me beaten. They just recognized that sometimes memory stops working.
While the police officer is the physical actor in this little disaster, the policies in place by the wealthiest retail corporation on the planet are the root cause. A brief lapse of memory ? The things you worked to get into your cart are taken away. You are refused entry to the store. And banned to the store, which may be the only store that you can get to. AND then the police are involved and you are savaged.
Re: Senior with dementia and aphasia trades $14 worth of products for broken arm - Lemon Drop - 04-20-2021
Where are her caregivers???
I see they've filed a federal lawsuit, maybe use some to provide appropriate care?
And of course fire the officers and send them to jail for aggravated assault.
Re: Senior with dementia and aphasia trades $14 worth of products for broken arm - C(-)ris - 04-20-2021
Lemon Drop wrote:
Where are her caregivers???
I see they've filed a federal lawsuit, maybe use some to provide appropriate care?
And of course fire the officers and send them to jail for aggravated assault.
Police do what they are trained to do. Restrain and detain criminals. They aren't mental health providers or community advocates/social workers nor should they be. Two completely exclusive skillsets.
Why aren't you advocating for suing here caregivers for being negligent?
Re: Senior with dementia and aphasia trades $14 worth of products for broken arm - Filliam H. Muffman - 04-20-2021
.
This is another example of a wellness check gone massively wrong. I almost posted this at zero dark thirthy Sunday morning when my insomnia wouldn't let me fall asleep.
Cops Tackled a Grandma With Dementia Picking Flowers, Bodycam Footage Shows
https: //www.vice.com/en/article/qj8487/cops-tackled-a-grandma-with-dementia-picking-flowers-bodycam-footage-shows
After dealing with my mom that would have brief (and unexpected) bouts of confusion, and I now realize what might be considered aphasia, I empathize a lot more with what caregivers deal with.
Re: Senior with dementia and aphasia trades $14 worth of products for broken arm - Speedy - 04-20-2021
C(-)ris wrote:
[quote=Lemon Drop]
Where are her caregivers???
I see they've filed a federal lawsuit, maybe use some to provide appropriate care?
And of course fire the officers and send them to jail for aggravated assault.
Police do what they are trained to do. Restrain and detain criminals. They aren't mental health providers or community advocates/social workers nor should they be. Two completely exclusive skillsets.
Why aren't you advocating for suing here caregivers for being negligent?
Defund the police and hand off some of their work to others.