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New color printer--Xerox Phaser 6180 - elmo3 - 02-14-2007
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This printer came out on Monday, and mine got delivered today.
Wow. Full color, 20ppm single sided, 14 images/minute with the auto two sided feature. EXTREMELY easy to set up, REAL Adobe Postscript 3, and surprisingly small. Imagine a LaserWriter II stood on end. About the same weight as the old LW II, too.
My next task: printing some photos to see how well it does. Also some envelopes. If it does envelopes well, I can get rid of my LW 16/600.
I've ordered a gig stick of RAM to add things like proof print and RAM collation.
I wish they offered a hard drive option, instead of using just RAM, but what the hey. I bet that'll be the next model.
Re: New color printer--Xerox Phaser 6180 - jdc - 02-15-2007
ive never used the hard drive on my 7300, not sure what i would store on it
then again, its got 198 megs of ram, even large 100+ meg files print in just a minute or 2
edit: i just saw they replaced the 8500/8550 with the 8560, 8500 was $499 after a $400 rebate, but now the least expensive 8560 is $800
maybe a good time to score an 8500 if they still offer the rebate...
Re: New color printer--Xerox Phaser 6180 - BigGuynRusty - 02-15-2007
Weren't the HD's for font storage?
BGnR
Re: New color printer--Xerox Phaser 6180 - mattkime - 02-15-2007
>>Weren't the HD's for font storage?
At least when it was slow to push fonts through AppleTalk.
What are consumables like on that machine? I wish I could have talked my boss into getting one instead of a new laser.
Re: New color printer--Xerox Phaser 6180 - elmo3 - 02-15-2007
[quote BigGuynRusty]Weren't the HD's for font storage?
BGnR
Yes, but on modern machines the hard drive does more. A modern machine allows for a wide variety of features that demand that the print stream be stored at the printer for some period of time. One example is secure print--put a password on your print job, then walk up to print it at the machine at your leisure, without everyone seeing it.
Another example is proof print. Yeah, I want this to print out, but print me one first. If I like it, I'll tell you at the printer to keep printing the rest. Or electronic collation--if it's a large job and you want several collated copies, send the print stream one time (uncheck any "collated" buttons in the print dialog box), the printer will store it, then the printer will re-use the print stream from the printer itself. If you're lucky, you get a printer that will rasterize each page and store the rasters on the hard drive or in the memory, so that printing multiple collated sets goes at engine speed.
Re: New color printer--Xerox Phaser 6180 - elmo3 - 02-15-2007
[quote mattkime]>>Weren't the HD's for font storage?
At least when it was slow to push fonts through AppleTalk.
What are consumables like on that machine? I wish I could have talked my boss into getting one instead of a new laser.
At $195 for each high cap cartridge, and there are four of them, it's roughly 12 cents per page for average office use.
Each cartridge is self-contained (a la the old LaserWriters and the HP model), so the cartridge costs are pretty much the only costs. I know the fuser and the intermediate belt are replaceable, but they aren't listed as consumables. They're probably service parts with unknown lifetimes, so it's difficult to factor them into the total cost per page equation.
I'm printing out some photos now (out of InDesign); this is a fine business use and general use printer, a superb inkjet replacement for general home use, but don't throw out your photo printer just yet. Which is fine.
I can tell you that I don't pay for supplies, repairs, or paper (I didn't pay for the printer, either), so I'm going to use the hell out of this thing. I love having the auto-duplex feature.
Again, very easy to set up and real Adobe Postscript 3, which for me is a requirement no matter what the print engine itself.
Re: New color printer--Xerox Phaser 6180 - LaserKun - 02-15-2007
Hey, elmo, keep us posted on this printer. I am also looking for a new printer, trying to decide between inkjet/laser. The laser in my name, stands for laser printer... That's about all I have used because of ink jet cartridge costs, cents per page costs. And, I sometimes print quite a lot. Envelope printing is important to me. My old LW 4/600 PS and 16/600 are getting a little long in the gums...
Seriously wanting to look at the new Kodak inkjet that comes out next month; supposed to be half cost for cartridges. We'll see...
Re: New color printer--Xerox Phaser 6180 - elmo3 - 02-15-2007
One of the first things I did on the 6180 was print an envelope. Worked great. You can stack envelopes in the multi-function tray.
Like so much in life, if you want to do it right you need more than one type of the same or similar thing. "Printing" can encompass so many activities that no one device can meet your "printing" needs. "Scanning" is the same. Shoot, so is "car". I think every family should have a beater pickup for weekend work duty, in addition to whatever people transport they have.
Re: New color printer--Xerox Phaser 6180 - jimbrady - 02-15-2007
Wow--$780 to replace the cartridges is a kick in the pants. I guess those will print more than the carts that come with it, but it still seems like the disposable razor blades business model. I'm sure I'll face the same sad dirge when it's time to pony up for new carts for my KM 2450, but I hope that time never comes.
Re: New color printer--Xerox Phaser 6180 - Silencio - 02-15-2007
I have to say, I've been very pleased with Xerox's printer offerings over the past five or six years. I've recommended quite a few monochrome laser, color laser, and color solid ink printers to a variety of clients and they've all performed very well. It's just a bummer that you can't walk into any old Office Despot or Beast Buy and pick one up, which is probably why HP has all the marketshare, even though their higher-end products can't compare with Xerox's at all.