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The elephant in the room the elephants don't want to talk about - "The Big Lie" - Ted King - 10-27-2023
I've noticed that Republicans in Congress (the House Republicans especially) don't want to talk about "The Big Lie" (that Trump didn't lose the election). All the hardliners, including Speaker Johnson, are on record saying that the election was stolen. Yet, they don't want to talk about it now. I think they think that by not talking about it that it will go away.
I don't think it is going to go away. I think it is going to haunt the Republicans. It's not the biggest issue, but there's a reason that they resort to even booing at a reporter asking Speaker Johnson about it.
Trump's Georgia and Jan. 6 trials are going to be focused on the LIE part of "The Big Lie" so I think would think that would make it harder for Republicans to dodge questions about it.
What do you all think?
Re: The elephant in the room the elephants don't want to talk about - "The Big Lie" - Tiangou - 10-27-2023
It’s not going to haunt them.
Dems will try to make it a talking point in the election with little success.
Republican voters will consider it a selling point, not a liability. Anyone who still votes republican is well settled into a permanent reality distortion field.
Re: The elephant in the room the elephants don't want to talk about - "The Big Lie" - Ted King - 10-27-2023
Tiangou wrote:
It’s not going to haunt them.
Dems will try to make it a talking point in the election with little success.
Republican voters will consider it a selling point, not a liability. Anyone who still votes republican is well settled into a permanent reality distortion field.
Could very well be.
Re: The elephant in the room the elephants don't want to talk about - "The Big Lie" - gabester - 10-27-2023
I hope the continued behavior by MAGA Qpublicans around their election denial Big Lie is sufficient to encourage the ordinary independent voters to continue to split for Democrats in droves. We don't need the 35-40% of the GQP that will never vote for anyone who doesn't have an R next to their name; but we do need 80-90% of the "independent" (many of whom don't pay close attention to politics, and a meaningful portion of whom are essentially closeted GQP... which these numbers scary close to winning competitive national elections.)
Re: The elephant in the room the elephants don't want to talk about - "The Big Lie" - Ca Bob - 10-27-2023
As the evidence accumulates that numerous advisors told Trump that he lost the election, there will be a small percentage of one-time Trump voters who will have doubts. It only takes 3-5 percent to turn the election into a route. I suspect that Trump comes across as whiney to the new generation who will be registering to vote this year, and they will be substantially on the side of reproductive freedom.
Re: The elephant in the room the elephants don't want to talk about - "The Big Lie" - Acer - 10-27-2023
gabester wrote:
I hope the continued behavior by MAGA Qpublicans around their election denial Big Lie is sufficient to encourage the ordinary independent voters to continue to split for Democrats in droves. We don't need the 35-40% of the GQP that will never vote for anyone who doesn't have an R next to their name; but we do need 80-90% of the "independent" (many of whom don't pay close attention to politics, and a meaningful portion of whom are essentially closeted GQP... which these numbers scary close to winning competitive national elections.)
In tight elections, the people in the middle who sway with the breezes are the ones who decide it. A relative handful of these willows in the wind in three states handed Trump the presidency.
Re: The elephant in the room the elephants don't want to talk about - "The Big Lie" - Speedy - 10-27-2023
I hope someone in the press asks Speaker Johnson about this every single time he takes questions.
Re: The elephant in the room the elephants don't want to talk about - "The Big Lie" - DeusxMac - 10-27-2023
Speedy wrote:
I hope someone in the press asks Speaker Johnson about this every single time he takes questions.
Likely Virginia Foxx (a real piece of work herself) or someone of her ilk will be there to holler "Shut up!" at the reporter.
"In October 2023 while amongst Republicans gathered for a press conference for then-House speaker nominee Mike Johnson, she was scrutinized for screaming at a reporter to "go away" and "shut up" when he was asked to speak about his efforts to overturn the 2020 U.S. Presidential election."
The definition of "old biddy"??
Re: The elephant in the room the elephants don't want to talk about - "The Big Lie" - wurm - 10-27-2023
Speedy wrote:
I hope someone in the press asks Speaker Johnson about this every single time he takes questions.
And keep asking him every time he ignores the question. It would take some major cooperation from the press corps, but it would be such fun to watch.
Re: The elephant in the room the elephants don't want to talk about - "The Big Lie" - sekker - 10-28-2023
In the 2022 midterms, those advocates for the Big Lie greatly underperformed a 'replacement' GOP name on a standard ballot.
Bring it on.
The Dems need to just focus on the TWO big lies:
1) Biden won fair and square
2) Ending RvW was the entire point of the far right selling their souls.