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Gun owners commit less crime - Mr645 - 03-22-2024
Fact: People with concealed carry licenses are:
5.7 times less likely to be arrested for violent offenses than the general public
13.5 times less likely to be arrested for non-violent offenses than the general public
Re: Gun owners commit less crime - Mr645 - 03-22-2024
Lots of interesting data here
http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-policy-info/concealed-carry/
Re: Gun owners commit less crime - cbelt3 - 03-22-2024
So license every firearm and gun owner. Sounds good. Do it.
Re: Gun owners commit less crime - Mr645 - 03-22-2024
cbelt3 wrote:
So license every firearm and gun owner. Sounds good. Do it.
Data covers states that both require concealed permits and states that don't. Data shows the permit as no measurable effect on crimes.
As far as a license to own a firearm, no state has that. Only assault weapons are licensed
"Federal law requires assault weapons to be registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives (ATF), and generally prohibits the transfer or possession of machine guns manufactured after May 19, 1986."
Re: Gun owners commit less crime - Tiangou - 03-22-2024
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/study-finds-significant-increase-in-firearm-assaults-in-states-that-relaxed-conceal-carry-permit-restrictions
Study Finds Significant Increase in Firearm Assaults in States that Relaxed Conceal Carry Permit Restrictions
A new study by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health found that the average rate of assaults with firearms increased an average of 9.5 percent relative to forecasted trends in the first 10 years after 34 states relaxed restrictions on civilians carrying concealed firearms in public.
The study examined two aspects of policy changes: the overall impact on gun violence when states changed their laws for civilians carrying concealed firearms from more to less restrictive ones and, secondly, whether less restrictive measures—known as “shall issue” laws—containing specific safety and screening provisions influenced gun violence outcomes.
The study found that moving to less restrictive laws was associated with a 24 percent increase in the rate of assaults with firearms (12.75 per 100,000) when individuals convicted of violent misdemeanors were eligible to obtain concealed-carry licenses. The researchers also found that states with shall issue laws that had live-fire firearm safety training requirements did not see the significant increases in firearm assaults that were estimated for states that lacked such requirements.
The findings were published online September 20 in the American Journal of Epidemiology.
“In general, violent crime increased after states loosened concealed carry permitting requirements,” says Mitchel Doucette, PhD, assistant scientist in the Department of Health Policy and Management and director of research methods at the Center for Gun Violence Solutions at the Bloomberg School. “Allowing more individuals to carry concealed guns in public—including some who would have previously been denied carry permits due to prior arrests or restraining orders—can increase inappropriate use of firearms in response to interpersonal conflicts, disputes, or other situations.”...
Re: Gun owners commit less crime - Tiangou - 03-22-2024
Maybe you should stop citing figures from sites run by gun-marketers.
Just a suggestion.
Re: Gun owners commit less crime - mattkime - 03-22-2024
Sometimes the extremes are more meaningful than the average.
Re: Gun owners commit less crime - Mr645 - 03-22-2024
So we agree that eoplep who have committed violent acts should not have firearms.
when individuals convicted of violent misdemeanors were eligible to obtain concealed-carry licenses.
And when law abiding citizens have guns, crime drops
5.7 times less likely to be arrested for violent offenses than the general public
13.5 times less likely to be arrested for non-violent offenses than the general public
Re: Gun owners commit less crime - JoeH - 03-22-2024
Mr645 wrote:
Lots of interesting data here
http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-policy-info/concealed-carry/
Lots of data sourced from unreliable sources that have failed to do any proper peer review. Much of it appears to be based on anecdotal stories, not confirmable data.
Re: Gun owners commit less crime - mattkime - 03-22-2024
Mr645 wrote:
And when law abiding citizens have guns, crime drops
What about suicide?