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Why do we protect freedom - Mr645 - 04-12-2024

Why do we protect freedom with guns?
Nations use guns to protect from invading nations
Police use guns to protect their cities
Citizens use guns to protect their homes

Yet anti American lefties keep proposing laws to remove guns from law abiding citizens and fail to punish criminals that use guns


Re: Why do we protect freedom - DeusxMac - 04-12-2024

"Most purported self-defense gun uses are gun uses in escalating arguments, and are both socially undesirable and illegal"

"Firearms are used far more often to intimidate than in self-defense"

"Guns in the home are used more often to intimidate intimates than to thwart crime"

"Adolescents are far more likely to be threatened with a gun than to use one in self-defense"

"Few criminals are shot by decent law-abiding citizens"

"Self-defense gun use is rare and not more effective at preventing injury than other protective actions"


https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/


Re: Why do we protect freedom - Mr645 - 04-12-2024

https://www.heritage.org/second-amendment/commentary/12-defensive-gun-uses-show-armed-citizens-make-communities-safer


hard to put any validity in one of the most racist, antisemitic institutions in the nation, Harvard
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/harvard-mit-tufts-umass-fighting-antisemitism-grades-adl-jewish-college-students/


Re: Why do we protect freedom - Robert M - 04-12-2024

Mr645,

Heritage Foundation? Meh. Incredibly biased and their credibility when comes to factual reporting is questionable at best.



And bringing the article from CBS news into the discussion is deflecting since it has nothing to do with firearms. You'll need to do better than that if you want us to even consider reading your nonsense.

Robert


Re: Why do we protect freedom - DeusxMac - 04-12-2024

Mr645 wrote:
https://www.heritage.org/second-amendment/commentary/12-defensive-gun-uses-show-armed-citizens-make-communities-safer

Survivorship bias – a small number of successes of a given process are actively promoted while completely ignoring a large number of failures.


Mr645 wrote: hard to put any validity in one of the most racist, antisemitic institutions in the nation, Harvard
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/harvard-mit-tufts-umass-fighting-antisemitism-grades-adl-jewish-college-students/

Poisoning the well - presenting adverse information about a source with the intention of discrediting everything that the source presents

Fallacy of composition – assuming that something true of part of a whole must also be true of the whole.

Red herring – introducing a second argument in response to the first argument that is irrelevant and draws attention away from the original topic.


“We won with poorly educated…" "I love the poorly educated!"


Re: Why do we protect freedom - Mr645 - 04-12-2024

DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=Mr645]
https://www.heritage.org/second-amendment/commentary/12-defensive-gun-uses-show-armed-citizens-make-communities-safer

Survivorship bias – a small number of successes of a given process are actively promoted while completely ignoring a large number of failures.


Mr645 wrote: hard to put any validity in one of the most racist, antisemitic institutions in the nation, Harvard
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/harvard-mit-tufts-umass-fighting-antisemitism-grades-adl-jewish-college-students/

Poisoning the well - presenting adverse information about a source with the intention of discrediting everything that the source presents

Fallacy of composition – assuming that something true of part of a whole must also be true of the whole.

Red herring – introducing a second argument in response to the first argument that is irrelevant and draws attention away from the original topic.


“We won with poorly educated…" "I love the poorly educated!"
Deu, do you ever have anything of value to contribute to anything? You seem like one of those triggered far leftist types, just copy and paste whatever makes you feel better about hating others and their ideas. The true definition of fascist


Re: Why do we protect freedom - Robert M - 04-12-2024

Mr645,

"do you ever have anything of value to contribute to anything?"

I offer the same question to you. At this point, the obvious answer is no.

Robert


Re: Why do we protect freedom - macphanatic - 04-12-2024

Mr645 wrote:
Yet anti American lefties keep proposing laws to remove guns from law abiding citizens and fail to punish criminals that use guns

And why don't they prosecute criminals who use illegal guns to commit crimes to the full extent of the law? Why do we wait until the third violent felony conviction to lock them up for life? They seem to be more concerned about the wellbeing of bad people and not those that are their victims.


Re: Why do we protect freedom - DeusxMac - 04-12-2024

Mr645 wrote:
You seem like one of those triggered far leftist types, just copy and paste whatever makes you feel better about hating others and their ideas. The true definition of fascist

It's already been established that you don't actually know what "fascist" means when you use it, so your use is meaningless.

https://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,2926055,2926193#msg-2926193


Re: Why do we protect freedom - Ted King - 04-12-2024

DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=Mr645]
You seem like one of those triggered far leftist types, just copy and paste whatever makes you feel better about hating others and their ideas. The true definition of fascist

It's already been established that you don't actually know what "fascist" means when you use it, so your use is meaningless.

https://forums.macresource.com/read.php?2,2926055,2926193#msg-2926193
You must be a fascist commie to say something like that. /s