+- MacResource (https://forums.macresource.com)
+-- Forum: My Category (https://forums.macresource.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: 'Friendly' Political Ranting (https://forums.macresource.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=6)
+--- Thread: French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote (/showthread.php?tid=292344)
Pages:
1
2
French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote - SteveG - 12-04-2024
USA not alone in being seriously messed up.
French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/04/france-government-vote-no-confidence-barnier-lepen-europe-live
The minority government of Michel Barnier has been brought down by a no-confidence vote after his decision to push the social security component of the 2025 budget through parliament without a vote.
Barnier’s administration, the shortest-lived in the history of France’s Fifth Republic that began in 1958, is the first to be ousted by a motion of no confidence since Georges Pompidou’s in 1962.
The vote plunges France, a key EU member state, into deeper political crisis at a time when Germany is also mired in an election campaign until February and weeks before Donald Trump returns to the White House.
The debacle stems from President Emmanuel Macron’s decision to dissolve parliament in June. July’s snap election returned a parliament divided into three main blocs, none with a majority.
The New Popular Front (NFP), an alliance of left-leaning parties that has the most seats in parliament, tabled a no confidence motion that was backed by the far right National Rally (RN), the largest single party.
That gave the opposition parties comfortably more than the 288 votes they needed to bring thegovernment down. In the end, 331 voted in favour of the no-confidence motion.
Barnier is now obliged to tender his resignation and that of his government to Macron, who may ask him to stay on in a caretaker capacity or try to appoint a new prime minister.
A caretaker government should be able to roll over the 2024 budget to ensure the government is not forced to shut down, but with no fresh elections permitted until July 2025 and parliament more bitterly divided than ever, the prospects for achieving a stable government look slim.
Re: French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote - gabester - 12-04-2024
I fully expect by February 2025 for:
China to reclaim by force Taiwan
Russia to attack a NATO country
I anticipate one of many day 1 actions by the incoming 47th President will be to:
Withdraw from the NATO treaty
Declare martial law (possibly justified by China invading Taiwan)
Possibly even annex Canada?!
By the end of 2025 we could be facing the dissolution of the EU, although I suspect even Putin's best disinformation agents will take another 18-36 months.
Re: French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote - DeusxMac - 12-04-2024
gabester wrote:
I fully expect by February 2025 for:
Russia to attack a NATO country
Gotta finish off the non-NATO countries first. "Reconstitute" the old USSR: Ukraine, then Belarus, Modolva, Georgia, Armenia, Kazakhstan and all the little adjacent "...stans", etc.
Re: French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote - vision63 - 12-04-2024
DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=gabester]
I fully expect by February 2025 for:
Russia to attack a NATO country
Gotta finish off the non-NATO countries first. "Reconstitute" the old USSR: Ukraine, then Belarus, Modolva, Georgia, Armenia, Kazakhstan and all the little adjacent "...stans", etc.
The low-hanging fruit. Mr Dove Peace won't interfere.
Re: French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote - gabester - 12-04-2024
DeusxMac wrote:
Gotta finish off the non-NATO countries first. "Reconstitute" the old USSR: Ukraine, then Belarus, Modolva, Georgia, Armenia, Kazakhstan and all the little adjacent "...stans", etc.
Why buy some jalopy or a Yugo when you can steal a Mini Cooper or a Chevy Blazer?
I don't think the objective here is to accrue resources or gain wealth so much as to destabilize; there's a lot more for oligarchs to gain from more destructive wars than from relatively peaceful annexations.
Re: French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote - AllGold - 12-04-2024
gabester wrote:
I fully expect by February 2025 for:
China to reclaim by force Taiwan
Russia to attack a NATO country
I anticipate one of many day 1 actions by the incoming 47th President will be to:
Withdraw from the NATO treaty
Can't. Some legislators were actually paying attention after his last term and put in place a law preventing that without a 2/3rds vote by both the House and Senate.
Re: French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote - Acer - 12-04-2024
AllGold wrote: put in place a law preventing that without a 2/3rds vote by both the House and Senate.
Re: French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote - hal - 12-04-2024
Acer wrote:
[quote=AllGold]put in place a law preventing that without a 2/3rds vote by both the House and Senate.
what can the supremes do about it? afaik, nothing. You know something different?
Re: French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote - Acer - 12-04-2024
hal wrote:
[quote=Acer]
[quote=AllGold]put in place a law preventing that without a 2/3rds vote by both the House and Senate.
what can the supremes do about it? afaik, nothing. You know something different?
The [Supreme] Court is the highest tribunal in the Nation for all cases and controversies arising under the Constitution or the laws of the United States. https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/constitutional.aspx
Re: French government toppled after losing no-confidence vote - Fritz - 12-05-2024
Acer wrote:
The [Supreme] Court is the highest tribunal in the Nation for all cases and controversies arising under the Constitution or the laws of the United States.
what were these laws you speak of?
do I recall that the incoming was convicted of 35 fell on knees?
A messy '25 appears on the horizon.