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Re: Can You Fool A Self Driving Car? (interesting update) - special - 03-20-2025
Watch this the end. Different cars, different results
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KyIWpAevNs
Re: Can You Fool A Self Driving Car? (interesting update) - Ken Sp. - 03-21-2025
special wrote:
Watch this the end. Different cars, different results
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KyIWpAevNs
The version 13 on Hardware 4 is incredible.
The premise of the painted wall is strictly for entertainment, when would that ever be encountered in the real world?
Re: Can You Fool A Self Driving Car? (interesting update) - jonny - 03-21-2025
Agreed. I was much more concernedby the water and fog results.
Re: Can You Fool A Self Driving Car? (interesting update) - sekker - 03-21-2025
This is my experience as a daily driver.
That earlier video was just clickbait.
Re: Can You Fool A Self Driving Car? (interesting update) - Acer - 03-21-2025
His wall doesn't match the background as closely as it did in Rober's video.
He also did not test the manikin part at all.
And no, you would not be likely to encounter a perfectly painted wall.
Rober didn't tell you to throw away your Tesla because it failed his extremely unlikely scenario.
OTOH, LIDAR wasn't fooled at all. Which is safer for unlikely edge cases?
Re: Can You Fool A Self Driving Car? (interesting update) - Black - 03-21-2025
So if you make the wall badly enough the car can tell it's there. Who would have expected that?
Re: Can You Fool A Self Driving Car? (interesting update) - kj - 03-21-2025
Acer wrote:
His wall doesn't match the background as closely as it did in Rober's video.
He also did not test the manikin part at all.
And no, you would not be likely to encounter a perfectly painted wall.
Rober didn't tell you to throw away your Tesla because it failed his extremely unlikely scenario.
OTOH, LIDAR wasn't fooled at all. Which is safer for unlikely edge cases?
Not an edge case. Does not need to be done.
Re: Can You Fool A Self Driving Car? (interesting update) - Acer - 03-21-2025
kj wrote:
[quote=Acer]
His wall doesn't match the background as closely as it did in Rober's video.
He also did not test the manikin part at all.
And no, you would not be likely to encounter a perfectly painted wall.
Rober didn't tell you to throw away your Tesla because it failed his extremely unlikely scenario.
OTOH, LIDAR wasn't fooled at all. Which is safer for unlikely edge cases?
Not an edge case. Does not need to be done.
The test is when the road ahead cannot be differentiated from the background visually. The Roadrunner scenario was an extreme test of that. The person behind heavy fog was a real world scenario, if you've ever seen youtube videos of cars smashing into each other on a fogged-in highway.
Re: Can You Fool A Self Driving Car? (interesting update) - kj - 03-22-2025
The fog is legit, but you’re never gonna see the roadrunner.
Re: Can You Fool A Self Driving Car? (interesting update) - RAMd®d - 03-22-2025
As pointed out, the roadrunner bit was a gag.
But there is a valid point behind it, to anyone not distracted.