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Time for Steve Jobs to Retire? - MacMagus - 10-18-2008
Way back in the golden days of Macintosh right about the time when Steve Jobs was replaced by John Sculley, a murmur ran through the masses and the murmur went like this:
Steve Jobs' ego is destroying Apple.
And Jobs was replaced and Apple made better and better computers. And then they made worse and worse computers. And then Michael Spindler's mismanagement drove the company nearly to ruin. And Gil Amelio considered selling Apple to Sony.
And the people spake thusly: "What if Jobs came back?"
And the general conclusion was that Steve Jobs was too unstable to run the company for very long, but bringing him back for 4-5 years could rejuvenate the company and bring us to a second golden age.
And lo, Steve Jobs came back to the mother company.
And lo, he has been there for 11 years and indeed, Apple has flourished.
And lo, he has an ailment that makes the stock price plummet when his photo hits the news.
And lo, what Jobs giveth, he taketh away. He has given us iPods and taken away our FireWire.
Consumer Macs are not unlike the glitzy Vaio now: pretty, but overpriced and short on substance.
With little to sustain it but the OS, which now runs on 3rd party computers, in what direction is Steve Jobs guiding us? Is it not to sure oblivion, awash in a sea of shiny indistinguishable PC's?
Is it not time to seek his true successor?
Re: Time for Steve Jobs to Retire? - deckeda - 10-18-2008
I always thought his return was actually coincidence due to them primarily picking NeXT --- and so he came along with that. Then again, surely they had to realize what that actually meant ...
Re: Time for Steve Jobs to Retire? - 3d - 10-18-2008
There's no Firewire on the 13 inch laptops.
Let it go.
Get on with your life.
Re: Time for Steve Jobs to Retire? - deckeda - 10-18-2008
3d wrote:
There's no Firewire on the 13 inch laptops.
WHAT? Has anyone told Jobs this?!
Re: Time for Steve Jobs to Retire? - IronMac - 10-18-2008
According to some people here, Jobs doesn't actually do anything at Apple and so it was probably not his doing so stop blaming him.
Of course, this begs the question...what were his 'successors' smoking when they did this!?
Re: Time for Steve Jobs to Retire? - guitarist - 10-18-2008
And lo, the little dogs bark....and the Caravan rolls on.
Re: Time for Steve Jobs to Retire? - MacMagus - 10-18-2008
It's a serious question.
Think about his health.
Keeping his medical condition a secret may be against the law and is a disservice to stockholders. If, as as been reported, he kept his cancer secret, ignored medical advice and postponed a potentially lifesaving operation for several months while he tried to cure cancer with a vegan diet -- jeopardizing his life -- he has demonstrated that he does not have the respect for his position -- or his life -- that a CEO should have.
How many people know that he had a follow-up operation a few months ago? Quite a few of us, I'd guess.
Now how many people here know what the operation was? Anyone? No one? Trick question. The best we can get out of Steve and Apple is that it "addressed a problem that was contributing to his loss of weight."
'Think he'll be alive next week?
'Think not knowing is good for the stock price?
'Think he's on his best game right now?
Re: Time for Steve Jobs to Retire? - BigGuynRusty - 10-18-2008
MacMagus wrote:LOL!!
Way back in the golden days of Macintosh right about the time when Steve Jobs was replaced by John Sculley, a murmur ran through the masses and the murmur went like this:
Steve Jobs' ego is destroying Apple.
And Jobs was replaced and Apple made better and better computers. And then they made worse and worse computers. And then Michael Spindler's mismanagement drove the company nearly to ruin. And Gil Amelio considered selling Apple to Sony.
And the people spake thusly: "What if Jobs came back?"
And the general conclusion was that Steve Jobs was too unstable to run the company for very long, but bringing him back for 4-5 years could rejuvenate the company and bring us to a second golden age.
And lo, Steve Jobs came back to the mother company.
And lo, he has been there for 11 years and indeed, Apple has flourished.
And lo, he has an ailment that makes the stock price plummet when his photo hits the news.
And lo, what Jobs giveth, he taketh away. He has given us iPods and taken away our FireWire.
Consumer Macs are not unlike the glitzy Vaio now: pretty, but overpriced and short on substance.
With little to sustain it but the OS, which now runs on 3rd party computers, in what direction is Steve Jobs guiding us? Is it not to sure oblivion, awash in a sea of shiny indistinguishable PC's?
Is it not time to seek his true successor?
Can you attribute any of these "Murmurs"?
I mean beside the ones in your head??
BGnR
Re: Time for Steve Jobs to Retire? - MacMagus - 10-18-2008
> Can you attribute any of these "Murmurs"?
If you were a Mac-head at the time, you had that conversation.
Re: Time for Steve Jobs to Retire? - OWC Jamie - 10-18-2008
Ponder his health.
His health has been kept a secret.
serenity now