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G5 agony - bazookaman - 03-22-2006
So i plopped in my shiny new 300gb seagate into my nice shiny new (to me) dual 2.0 G5 and commenced to TRY to install Tiger. It came with Panther installed and a Tiger upgrade disc. When I tried to install it on the new drive it got to 100% of the basic system install and kernel panicked. When I tried it on the other drive (with panther on it) It didn't even get that far. But no kernel panic, it just said installation cancelled b/c of errors with the disc.
So now, does this just sound like a bad DVD? or something more insidious?
Re: G5 agony - OWC Jamie - 03-22-2006
Maybe a bad DVD.
Maybe a dirty DVD.
Maybe a dirty lens in the drive.
Re: G5 agony - bazookaman - 03-22-2006
unfortunately, the DVD came right out of the packaging. I have my other Tiger DVD but its at work. Reckon I shall wait until tomorrow to try this again. Dang.
Re: G5 agony - OWC Larry - 03-23-2006
Did the DVD pass the standard verify - or did you skip the verify?
Re: G5 agony - bazookaman - 03-23-2006
ah ha! I knew someone would ask that. Normally I skip that step, but on the 3rd try, I let it run. The disk checked out...at least according to Apple's test. The last time i tried it, I got a kp after about 10% of the base install.
Re: G5 agony - GeneL - 03-23-2006
This may be a dumb question, but did you format the new drive with Disk Utility?
Also, was everything working properly in Panther?
It sounds as if you are removing the original drive and replacing it with your new drive. Why didn't you just add the new drive in the second bay? Or am I mistaken about this?
I'm sure there's a solution for you, so take a tranquilizer if you have one and go to it
I've had a number of strange quirks with my G5 2.0 and after a bunch of trial and error experiments with the usual fixes, I finally worked it out. I'm sure you will, too.
That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Re: G5 agony - bazookaman - 03-23-2006
i did add the second drive. not sure if panther was working properly. It started up and prompted me to enter my info. I just didn't want to bother with all that since I was going to install Tiger anyways...which I tried on both installed drives. Neither worked. I'm gonna get my Tiger disk from work tomorrow and try that instead and see if that works. Hopefully it will.
Re: G5 agony - OWC Larry - 03-23-2006
If worst comes to worst - we'll get you good to go with a new system and pickup the one that's KPing. We do full diagnostics + last step is that we do a software restore/install of the 10.3.5 with iLife. So - should be no issue.
And something else hit me...
What is the model of the Seagate you put in there? If it's one of the newer SATA II Models with that SSC feature... and the SSC wasn't disabled - I'd bet the bucks that is the problem.
If you got the Seagate from us, we disable it for customers prior to shipment standard (got to have a PC to do that btw). Even in the current G5s, there is an issue with having an SSC drive installed.
Pop out that drive - boot 10.3.5/create a quick user - run the 10.3.9 updates just as a kinda test.... Do the Tiger install on it if that all goes well... And if you have a SSC enabled drive, I bet it will all work too. But get that Seagate disconnected prior to doing those other things first. If it is SSC, it's trouble.
SSC is a SATA II feature that certain SATA controller chipsets, like the one Apple unfortunately has used, don't get along with. It was over a month after Seagate starting shipping SATA II drives (end of last year) that they put out a PC utility that allowed disabling the feature that was on by default. They did not do a Mac version.
I -THINK- I understand that pretty recently they reversed that where you need to use the utility to enable the feature due to the many compatibility issues.
This could just be it.
Re: G5 agony - GeneL - 03-23-2006
Tune in tomorrow for the next thrilling episode of "bazookaman meets the G5."
Fingers crossed for you
Re: G5 agony - rexrzer - 03-23-2006
Which Seagate SATA HDrive did you buy?
If it's the 7200.9-series, it will have SSC enabled as Larry suggested. If it's the 7200.8-series, they do not have SSC enabled by default. If the drive was a retail-boxed HDrive, look on the bottom of the box and read the model number, and post it...it'll be "ST3300xxxxAS"... and also post the PN (part number).
If it was purchased as an OEM bare drive, get the model number and part number off the top label on the drive.
I find it very suspect that a new 300GB Seagate HDrive would have SSC enabled...it's usually the larger drives where it's a problem: 400GB and 500GB models. But who can say for sure until you can tell us which exact model HDrive it is.
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