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Reform? Why do we need health-care reform? Everything is just fine the way it is. - Z - 08-04-2009
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Go ahead, shoot me. I like the status quo on health care in the United States. I've got health insurance and I don't give a damn about the 47 million suckers who don't. Obama and Congress must be stopped. No bill! I'm better off the way things are.
I'm with that woman who wrote the president complaining about "socialized medicine" and added: "Now keep your hands off my Medicare." That's the spirit!
http://www.newsweek.com/id/209817/page/1
Re: Reform? Why do we need health-care reform? Everything is just fine the way it is. - Don Kiyoti - 08-04-2009
The sarcasm of that piece will fly over the heads of many, including a few forum regulars.
A new Harris poll suggests that a majority of Americans are in favor of a Gov't-run or public option. I know I am.
Re: Reform? Why do we need health-care reform? Everything is just fine the way it is. - Mac1337 - 08-04-2009
Don Kiyoti wrote:
The sarcasm of that piece will fly over the heads of many, including a few forum regulars.
A new Harris poll suggests that a majority of Americans are in favor of a Gov't-run or public option. I know I am.
Slackers usually are for freebees. Go get a second job. I am not paying for your health insurance, who probably has half a dozen Macs scattered throughout the house, to go out and buy even more.
Re: Reform? Why do we need health-care reform? Everything is just fine the way it is. - Z - 08-04-2009
Dakota wrote:
[quote=Don Kiyoti]
The sarcasm of that piece will fly over the heads of many, including a few forum regulars.
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Slackers usually are for freebees. Go get a second job. I am not paying for your health insurance, who probably has half a dozen Macs scattered throughout the house, to go out and buy even more.
Case and point. Well put, Don Kiyoti.
Re: Reform? Why do we need health-care reform? Everything is just fine the way it is. - cbelt3 - 08-04-2009
Dak-
The point is that you actually ARE paying for slacker's healthcare through free or subsidized care that government requires from healthcare providers, as part of non-profit agreements, regional hospital agreements, and so forth.
Am I in favor of government run healthcare ? No, I am not. Mostly because I'm convinced that it would be the height of insanity to trust government with my personal health and well-being.
Am I in favor of government acting to reduce the tangled web of red tape, regulation, law, tort insanity, FDA stupidity, and other inefficiencies that help make our healthcare costs so incredibly high ? Yes, I am. Cut the BS, and maybe healthcare can become affordable.
Add another couple of layers of BS, and it will be worse.
Re: Reform? Why do we need health-care reform? Everything is just fine the way it is. - Mac1337 - 08-04-2009
Governments invented red tape and you want them to cut them? Where else have they done that? Just ask car dealers the paperwork they have to put up with just to sell a lousy car that took me all of one hour last week to buy. There is red tape reduction in front of you.
Re: Reform? Why do we need health-care reform? Everything is just fine the way it is. - Lux Interior - 08-04-2009
cbelt3 wrote:
Am I in favor ofgovernmentcorporate run healthcare ? No, I am not. Mostly because I'm convinced that it would be the height of insanity to trustgovernmentlarge, for-profit corporations with my personal health and well-being.
I'd prefer that doctors take care of me. As I've said before, government-paid health care will still use doctors.
Right now, insurance co. execs are in charge. Their primary goal is to make money. Providing the best care is not compatible with that goal.
Re: Reform? Why do we need health-care reform? Everything is just fine the way it is. - Rolando - 08-04-2009
Lux Interior wrote:
[quote=cbelt3]
Am I in favor ofgovernmentcorporate run healthcare ? No, I am not. Mostly because I'm convinced that it would be the height of insanity to trustgovernmentlarge, for-profit corporations with my personal health and well-being.
I'd prefer that doctors take care of me. As I've said before, government-paid health care will still use doctors.
Right now, insurance co. execs are in charge. Their primary goal is to make money. Providing the best care is not compatible with that goal.
Correction. Their primary goal is to increase thier own bonuses!
Re: Reform? Why do we need health-care reform? Everything is just fine the way it is. - lafinfil - 08-04-2009
I look forward to the day we will finally have a cure for Cranial Density Disorder
Re: Reform? Why do we need health-care reform? Everything is just fine the way it is. - BCam - 08-04-2009
I am in an HMO thru work.
I have a embedded wart on my thumb.
I need to have it removed says my primary care doctor.
Can he send me to a specialist to have it removed.
No.
My case MUST be submitted for review by whom I don't know: Doctors? Lawyers? Accountants? Investors? I don't know.
IF they decide yes, I am sent a form and make an appointment and wait for the specialist to have room for me.
IF he cannot successfully remove the wart, the process again repeats.
Would someone PLEASE explain to me how this is different from a government bureaucrat getting between me and my doctor?
Anyone?