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FREEDOM! Washington State's normal capacity gun mag ban ruled unconstitutional
#31
Lemon Drop wrote:
[quote=Smote]
[quote=Lemon Drop]
Seattle Times headline today:
"Gun sales in Washington have fallen dramatically this year, according to federal background check data, as a suite of new state gun regulations took effect."

And if you and the news reporters actually knew your subject, you would know that as of Jan 1, 2024, Washington State Patrol took over doing all background checks, and now, multiple firearms can be covered by the same background check. So number of CHECKS are down,but sales aren't. :emoticon-tv-015:

Oh, good morning Smote.

Your comment about gun sales measurement is inaccurate.

Here is the full article, not behind a paywall. It goes into detail about how gun sales are measured, state to state and nationally. This is not a perfect way to measure but the trends tell the story.

It also goes into detail on how Washington changed it's CBC system, a model for the entire country, and not accurately represented in your comment.

http://tribunecontentagency.com/


Nationwide, gun sales are down 11%. Crime is also down from the Trump/pandemic years, so combined with better gun responsibility laws and better enf orcement in many places, maybe we are finally on the right track.

After 30 years in gun control advocacy, 20 of them in Washington, I'm very glad to see that Washington is among the 10 best states for common sense, responsible management of gun ownership.
In December 2023, firearm sales totaled more than 1.7 million NSSF-Adjusted FBI National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) verifications processed for a gun purchase and boosted the streak of more than 1 million firearm sales per month to 53 months in a row. NSSF adjusts NICS data to focus solely on firearm purchases, filtering out NICS checks processed for other non-purchase purposes like renewing firearm permits and concealed carry licenses. The December 2023 total represents a boost up from last year’s December of roughly 1.6 percent.

The 4th Quarter 2023 (October, November and December) total came in at more than 4.7 million. It represents a 4.6 percent increase in sales over Q4 2022 and the 2023 firearm sales total of nearly 15.9 million is only slightly lower than the 2022 total of 16.4 million. But it’s still a year for the record books.

“The last three months of 2023 reversed a years-long downward trend in gun-related background checks,” Stephen Gutowski wrote in The Reload. “The numbers further bolster the idea there has been a rebound in gun sales after nearly three years of continuous decline from unprecedented peaks in 2020.”

In the end, 2023 was the fourth highest year on record for firearm sales since the FBI’s NICS system was first implemented, trailing behind only 2020, 2021 and 2022.
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#32
From a journalist, not a 2a activist:


SEATTLE — Gun sales in Washington have fallen dramatically this year, according to federal background check data, as a suite of new state gun regulations took effect.

The drop-off in Washington sales in the first three months of 2024 is much more significant than the modest drop-off seen nationwide in the same period.

The decline follows a nearly unprecedented spike in Washington gun sales at this time last year, as gun buyers rushed to make purchases while state lawmakers debated and ultimately passed a ban on AR-15s and similar semiautomatic weapons that took effect immediately. Washington was the 10th state to ban the high-powered semiautomatic rifles.
On Jan. 1 of this year, a new law took effect requiring a 10-day waiting period and mandatory safety training for all gun purchases in the state.

Gun sales in Washington in January and February, as measured by background checks, were about half what they were in January and February of 2023 — about 19,000 per month this year, compared with about 38,000 per month last year. In March, there were a little more than 22,000 background checks for gun sales in Washington, down more than 70% from the more than 77,000 checks in March 2023.

Nationally, background checks fell by only about 11% through the first three months of the year.
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#33
Mr645 wrote:
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68,000 guns illegally trafficked by U.S. dealers over 5 years were used in hundreds of shootings, ATF says
13,600 illegal transfers out of over 20,000,000, a fraction of a percent, IF the 68,000 in 5 years is accurate, citation please?
That line just above, that's blue, and underlined? That's called a "link". If you click on it, it will take you to a story that describes just how the DOJ/ATF came up with those numbers.

:RollingEyesSmiley5:
Sheesh!
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#34
pdq wrote:
[quote=Mr645]
[quote=pdq]
68,000 guns illegally trafficked by U.S. dealers over 5 years were used in hundreds of shootings, ATF says
13,600 illegal transfers out of over 20,000,000, a fraction of a percent, IF the 68,000 in 5 years is accurate, citation please?
That line just above, that's blue, and underlined? That's called a "link". If you click on it, it will take you to a story that describes just how the DOJ/ATF came up with those numbers.

:RollingEyesSmiley5:
Sheesh!
What is an unlicensed dealer? is that like an unlicensed pharmacist?
Sounds illegal already.
I think everyone is in favor of stopping illegal gun sales. How about we start with putting Hunter Biden behind bars for lying on his background check and illegal disposal of a firearm. Set an example
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#35
Smote wrote:
and none of that is legally relevant. No interest balancng in 2A cases. Which is why these types of bans are unconstitutional.

And yet again we enter into the gun-lovers' seemingly endless cry of "It's approved by the Supreme Court, therefore it's without question correct, now and forever"...

"Pay no attention to"...

Korematsu v. United States

Buck v. Bell

Plessy v. Ferguson

Dred Scott v. Sandford

...AND the 18th Amendment
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#36
DeusxMac wrote:
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and none of that is legally relevant. No interest balancng in 2A cases. Which is why these types of bans are unconstitutional.

And yet again we enter into the gun-lovers' seemingly endless cry of "It's approved by the Supreme Court, therefore it's without question correct, now and forever"...

"Pay no attention to"...

Korematsu v. United States

Buck v. Bell

Plessy v. Ferguson

Dred Scott v. Sandford

...AND the 18th Amendment

a list of failed Democratic, racist policies
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#37
Mr645 wrote:
a list of failed Democratic, racist policies

With the exception of the 18th Amendment*, those are all Supreme Court decisions.

*Andrew Volstead was a Republican!

Once again, verifying…

“We won with poorly educated…" "I love the poorly educated!"
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