Going from Tiger to Leopard

[Ted King]

I have a Mac Pro (2007 version) with 4gigs of ram and three hard drives. I have 10.4.11 installed now, but I am going to try to switch to 10.5 (the install disk is just plain 10.5). I plan on leaving the Tiger install and put Leopard on a different drive and then have the other drive for Time Machine. I'd like to leave the 10.4 install alone for the time being.

I am thinking of doing a doing a "fresh" install on a reformatted drive and then using Migration Assistant to move files over from the 10.4 disk to the new 10.5 install on the separate disk. A few questions:

Is there any reason that won't work?

Should I run the stand-alone 10.5.3 updater before or after running Migration Assistant?

I have a Logitech MX Laser wireless mouse I love. I have read that there is a problem with Leopard and the Application Enhancer that the Logitech mouse software uses - is that still the case, and if so, what steps can I take to avoid problems (please don't suggest a different mouse - I like this one too much to give it up)?

Are there other issues I should watch out for?

Thanks.

[deckeda]

[quote Ted King]

Is there any reason that won't work?

Should I run the stand-alone 10.5.3 updater before or after running Migration Assistant?
Sounds like a good plan. I did something very similar on a G5 tower with 2 HDs. Run MA or the OS updater whenever you want.

[laarree]

[quote Ted King]I have a Mac Pro (2007 version) with 4gigs of ram and three hard drives. I have 10.4.11 installed now, but I am going to try to switch to 10.5 (the install disk is just plain 10.5). I plan on leaving the Tiger install and put Leopard on a different drive and then have the other drive for Time Machine. I'd like to leave the 10.4 install alone for the time being.

I am thinking of doing a doing a "fresh" install on a reformatted drive and then using Migration Assistant to move files over from the 10.4 disk to the new 10.5 install on the separate disk. A few questions:

Is there any reason that won't work?

Should I run the stand-alone 10.5.3 updater before or after running Migration Assistant?

I have a Logitech MX Laser wireless mouse I love. I have read that there is a problem with Leopard and the Application Enhancer that the Logitech mouse software uses - is that still the case, and if so, what steps can I take to avoid problems (please don't suggest a different mouse - I like this one too much to give it up)?

Are there other issues I should watch out for?

Thanks.
I did something very similar to what you plan to do a few months back. I have a
Mac Pro, had been running 10.4.11, installed Leopard on a freshly-reformatted drive,
immediately updated to 10.5.2, and then used Migration Assistant to migrate everything
over from my Tiger boot drive. If the Application Enhancer you are talking about is APE
from Unsanity, make sure it is updated to the latest version, so it can cleanly disable
itself in Leopard--it won't work in Leopard unless you risk installing the Leopard-
compatible beta version.

It couldn't hurt to have all your necessary-for-Leopard application updates downloaded
and applied in Tiger before your install and migrate process begins.

Other than my slight disorientation in adapting to Leopard, this process worked fine on
my Mac Pro.

[Ted King]

Thanks for the prompt responses deckeda and laarree. I have been trying to make sure I have all the updates I need to be compatible with Leopard before I migrate. I hadn't thought to check Logitech's site, though. I have downloaded the newest version of Logitech Control Center - 2.4. They say this new version is compatible with Leopard - so if I upgrade to the 2.4 version of Control Center in Tiger, do you think doing that should be sufficient to head off any problems in Leopard?

[jdc]

i have a question -- is there something in leopard you are dying to try? or something thats missing from your tiger?

although im running leopard myself -- if it was really easy just to push a button and go back to tiger -- i just might

[Ted King]

[quote jdc]i have a question -- is there something in leopard you are dying to try? or something thats missing from your tiger?

although im running leopard myself -- if it was really easy just to push a button and go back to tiger -- i just might
There isn't really anything in particular. I'm just curious about whether or not I'll prefer Leopard to Tiger so I thought I'd give it a try. The reason I want to keep the Tiger install intact is for the possibility that I won't like Leopard - if I don't I'll just boot back into Tiger and stay with it until some software or hardware issue - like needing Leopard for iTunes on a new iPod or such that will probably happen down the line at some point - pushes me to make the change (I plan on using this Mac Pro as my main computer for another three to five years). But, maybe I'll like it and decide to stick with it now. I am trying to write a novel (who isn't :-)), though, and maybe Time Machine will come in handy if I want to go back and check earlier drafts.

[olnacl]

[quote jdc]i have a question -- is there something in leopard you are dying to try? or something thats missing from your tiger?

although im running leopard myself -- if it was really easy just to push a button and go back to tiger -- i just might
Just for another opinion, I have a similar setup with the addition of a drive for XP. Tiger remains on the original drive and I added a new drive for Leopard, installed and migrated from the Tiger drive. Then I learned PS7 wouldn't run on Leopard. After a month or two, I sprung for CS3 (which, apparently from reading this forum, has an issue with 10.5.3).

My 4th drive in the Mac Pro is my TM backup for Leopard, Tiger is backed up to an external drive.

I'm about to pull the plug on the Tiger drive and reformat it for data storage.

[MacArtist]

Ted King,

I did the exact method to go from 10.4 to 10.5 you inquired about in your initial post.

It worked great.

That was just going to 10.5. I would think you could do the same. Run Migration Assistant and then run the combo updater for 10.5.3 downloaded off Apple's website and that would bring you up to current.

I like Leopard. I use Cover Flow a lot. I like Quick Look in Mail 3.3. I use Time Machine for keeping an easily accessible backup of my drive with system files and apps. I use a different program to back up mission critical files.

Sure there's some unnecessary eye candy (the reflection on the dock) but those can be easily fixed if it bothers you.

For me Leopard's not about one earth shattering change; it's all the little things that add up.

[incognegro]

I discovered something annoying about 10.5.

You can't connect to shared printers on a Mac running 10.3.9... has to be 10.4 or later.
PITA for me is my G4 / 10.3.9 won't boot from 10.4 on the drive attached to the ACARD PCI ATA card w/large drive attached. I think i'm stuck in a catch-22 with drivers; can't put them on without being booted into 10.4, and can't boot into 10.4 without 'em.

[Fritz]

I ended up doing the clean install up to 10.5.1, though I didn't use MA for file transfer.
All worked pretty well except Eudora had some problem and killed my In box of 80 messages. None were much of a loss and I had decent back-up.
I have since added some app and now have an intermittent problem with App Switcher (Cmd-tab) not working. Haven't figured out what it was I added yet.
My 1st try was Archive Install and that was plain ugly.