Health care costs a hefty price tag for Pentagon

[Grace62]

what?

[Black]

Grace62 wrote:
Folks, it's getting better. Apparently Dakota now favors single payer. I'm telling you, this forum stuff really works.

[Mac1337]

Grace62 wrote:
what?

So once again you pretend not to understand what I am saying just after engaging me half a dozen times.

[Grace62]

Dakota wrote:
[quote=Grace62]
what?

So once again you pretend not to understand what I am saying just after engaging me half a dozen times.

not pretending. rephrase it if you want to discuss

[Mac1337]

OK, i don't prefer a single payer. Quite the contrary, I prefer million payers, as in individual consumers shopping for insurance thus preventing the insurance companies from entering sweetheart deals with administrators. Aren't we back to my first post?

[Grace62]

That would put insurance out of reach for most families, or they'd have coverage that was so thin they'd be in financial jeopardy at any type of medical event.
Try comparing what you can get as an individual, from the same company, v. what a large employer or other group can get.
Medical costs are not going down, but our coverage and ability to pay for it sure can.

[Mac1337]

Group insurance does not have to be available solely from employers. Why can't trade groups, businesses, professional groups pool their members and buy insurance? I am intimately familiar how employers, insurance companies and consulting firms go behind closed doors and come up with take it or leave it plans. I can't believe you are for such a system? My total insurance cost is $16,000/yr according to what HR tells me. Give me that money, and change tax laws accordingly, and I will make Aetna cry at my feet to get my business.

[Grace62]

I'm not for such a system. I favor a universal, single payer system. Paid for with contributions from everybody, like Medicaid, and with contributions from employers. Vermont is putting it into law now, we'll see how they do.
I'd love to cut the insurance companies out altogether and spend health care dollars on health care, not on their bottom lines.
I belong to a not for profit health care cooperative, so at least nobody is profiting administratively off of my health care dollars. It's also very expense but I feel better about where the money is going.