Sony DCR-HC52 or Flip Video?

[will2000]

Trip to Europe coming up. My old bulky Sony D8 camcorder is not reliable, and my wife wants to a new one. Nothing professional is needed, and I was thinking about these:
Sony DCR-HC52 (miniDV) or Flip Video Ultra.
It seems the DVD and HD models are pricier than miniDV. The Flip is attractive, but will I be disappointed?

http://cameras.pricegrabber.com/camcorders/m/62715650/
http://cameras.pricegrabber.com/camcorde.../sv=title/

[papercup]

You may indeed be disappointed in the Flip. I use mine a lot, but its basically cell-phone quality video.

It is great as a quick video reference, but for more important video, I would find another compact video camera with better quality.

[Racer X]

I have an earlier -HC58 I think and it is fine for an entry level knock around camera. I do own and older 3 chip Sony TRV-900 that still beats the pants off of it, and it is almost a decade old.

[anonymouse1]

Get an SD tape machine and you'll be happy.

[incognegro]

How about one of these?

http://www.amazon.com/Aiptek-DV4500-Pock...B0001GT30Q
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DV-DM1-VP-RB-R&cat=CAM

also saw these for sale on a forum:

- Canon ZR800 SD camcorder: $100 (2 months old)

- JVC Everio GZ-MG130 30GB HDD Camcorder NIB $225 shipped
34x optical and 30gb HD

http://support.jvc.com/consumer/product....MODL027853&pathId=119&page=1&archive=true
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