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How soon a refurb?
#1
Last week I bought an iPod 80GB each for my two daughters. It got me wondering, I've had a Shuffle since they came out and I'm happy with it but maybe I deserve a bigger model. So what is your guess as to when the first 80GB iPod appears at the refurb store or have they appeared already?

This is only a light hearted musing, I'm sure they will be there before Christmas and maybe I will get one then.
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#2
by the middle of next month probably.

I noticed the 2 gig nanos refurbed for $100 right now.
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