A couple of headlines...

[pdq]

...which I feel should be related somehow, but I just can't put my finger on it.

From Fox News:

White population aging rapidly in US, dying faster than babies are born, data show

(Sorry, no link - just can't do it, but here's another story with the details.)

And from a lecturer and research fellow at Hillsdale College (?) and a former national security official in the Trump administration:

Why do we need more people in this country, anyway?

[DeusxMac]

pdq wrote:
And from a lecturer and research fellow at Hillsdale College (?) and a former national security official in the Trump administration...

Ah, Hillsdale College; a bastion of the monied conservatives. The best ultra conservative education (old) money can buy.

“In the early 1980s, two hundred Hillsdale students lost their federal student loans due to the college's opposition to affirmative action.”
“...Hillsdale withdrew from all federal assistance beginning with the 1984–85 academic year.”

“Hillsdale College President Larry Arnn described minority students as “dark ones” during a state legislature subcommittee hearing regarding the adoption of Common Core State Standards.”

[cbelt3]

Similar comments from the original Americans about the breeding habits of those damn white-skin invaders.

[sekker]

White kids in grades k-12 hit less than 50% of the US population in 2016 or so. Kind of the point of Trumpism.

[pdq]

My point, in case anyone missed it, was what are we going to do if birth rates continue to decline in this country? It seems to me that a reasonable level of population growth (or at least a stable population) is part of a healthy economy. (And to be crass, who’s going to pick the crops, reshingle the roofs, or pack the meat if we shut off immigration?)

Frankly, I think this is why Texas has been a bit of an outlier in red states in terms of economic growth. While the economies in conservative utopias like Kansas are strangled, having the longest border with Mexico (and thus a steady source of population growth) has it’s perks. Even undocumented immigrants have to earn money, and they buy stuff too.

[J Marston]

Immigration is a very complex issue which has been simplified to the point of idiocy by both parties. Repubs want immigrants from Germany and Finland; Dems want Latinos and Latinas. Repubs would send back everyone; Dems would send back no one. Currently, we have the worst of both: stupid immigration restrictions and a huge shadow population that is easily (and often) exploited.

[deckeda]

It’s less about Democrats “wanting” everyone than it is Democrats recognizing that their rich country is far from being overpopulated in any sense, and that helping immigrants succeed here (and become citizens) helps all of America. Oh, and Democrats also realize the security and job-loss objections are complete bullshit excuses used to discriminate.

Other than that lack of context, good assessment J.

[btfc]

J Marston wrote:
Immigration is a very complex issue which has been simplified to the point of idiocy by both parties. Repubs want immigrants from Germany and Finland; Dems want Latinos and Latinas. Repubs would send back everyone; Dems would send back no one. Currently, we have the worst of both: stupid immigration restrictions and a huge shadow population that is easily (and often) exploited.

Nice strawman you've constructed there! I have never heard a 'Dem' say we should 'send back' no one. I've heard lots of Democrats advocate sensible and compassionate asylum policies. I've also heard our Republican president refer to hispanic refugees as "rapists and murders", something that is easily disproved with readily available statistics. No equivalence there whatsoever.