Another one. Alameda CA. Victim of suffocation by cops was Latino

[Lemon Drop]

California Man Dies After Officers Pin Him to Ground for 5 Minutes https://nyti.ms/3sTBP7L

Pinned to the ground face down for 5 minutes.

Crime? Drunk in a park. No threat to anybody.

[cbelt3]

Too many cops think they are Judge Dredd.
Cuff them, zip tie the legs, let them roll around. Like they are gonna hop away ?

[deckeda]

His crime might have been a regular drunk-and-disorderly (although the 2nd part is a bit of a stretch, and the first part wasn’t proven) however the reason why he was detained was because he could not produce I.D.

This is where we’re at. No I.D. causes an attempted arrest, and one where the cop takes the easy way out by employing the ground to assist his lack of personal strength. $1 says that’s a specifically recommended action.

Meanwhile the cop in the video expresses surprise the perp is dead, as if there’s nothing he could have maybe done to handle this differently and/or this is just some random stuff that happens entirely out of his control.

Also meanwhile, states are rushing to allow guns in the streets without any reason or documentation needed. But no I.D.? That’s gonna get you tossed in the dirt.

[Speedy]

Acute alcohol poisoning at just that exact moment. Analogous to the drug overdose that killed George Floyd.

[DeusxMac]

deckeda wrote:
Meanwhile the cop in the video expresses surprise the perp is dead...

They’ve never died when I’ve done it before!

[deckeda]

Speedy wrote:
Acute alcohol poisoning at just that exact moment. Analogous to the drug overdose that killed George Floyd.

Darn shame, right? Like the one Capitol police who had a heart attack, and the other Capitol police who also got a heart attack but died: We have this super primitive way of determining death, like if you can’t prove the heart attack / drug overdose / suffocation was put into the victim, they must have just done it themselves thru bad living and bad luck.

[deckeda]

DeusxMac wrote:
[quote=deckeda]
Meanwhile the cop in the video expresses surprise the perp is dead...

They’ve never died when I’ve done it before!
What’s interesting about this one is that the police appear to have not come into this with any sort of animus against the guy. And yet there’s a hard disconnect that says oh-by-the-way-it’s-not-weird-at-all to put someone down in the dirt when they appear to resist.

The common thread is, perp did something wrong = full justification for any response.

[Sarcany]

deckeda wrote:
What’s interesting about this one is that the police appear to have not come into this with any sort of animus against the guy. And yet there’s a hard disconnect that says oh-by-the-way-it’s-not-weird-at-all to put someone down in the dirt when they appear to resist.

The common thread is, perp did something wrong = full justification for any response.

Was cogent and cooperative until they each grabbed an arm and twisted hard.

It's not clear why they did this. There was no reason to cuff him and it looked very much like they were deliberately hurting him, maybe just to establish dominance.

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Edit: "Cogent" is the wrong word. So is "lucid." Not sure what the right word is. He was obviously very drunk, but apparently able to speak and understand directions until he panicked when they grabbed his arms and twisted.

[deckeda]

Sarcany wrote:
[quote=deckeda]
What’s interesting about this one is that the police appear to have not come into this with any sort of animus against the guy. And yet there’s a hard disconnect that says oh-by-the-way-it’s-not-weird-at-all to put someone down in the dirt when they appear to resist.

The common thread is, perp did something wrong = full justification for any response.

Was cogent and cooperative until they each grabbed an arm and twisted hard.

It's not clear why they did this. There was no reason to cuff him and it looked very much like they were deliberately hurting him, maybe just to establish dominance.
Could be. Might be somewhere on p. 2 of the manual under the heading, “Whatever you say, goes. Supplicants should respond accordingly.”