Now Mercedes Backs Off EVs

[Speedy]

vision63 wrote:
[quote=Speedy]
[quote=mrbigstuff]
I've got to visit Mexico City; it's one if those places that fascinates on many levels.

Lots of wealth and lots of poverty.
Speedy probably has some other sinister features that pique interest at checkpoints. hmm? hmm?
My 10+ year old Caddy ELR gets its share of looks by LEO because they didn’t sell them here (it’s a two door coupe) and it has Minnesota plates however once they see its inspection hologram they are no longer interested. A few years ago we were shaken down for $750 by a handful of off-duty LEOs at an ad hoc checkpoint. If I had gotten the two-week tourist permit for the car we would have objected but I failed to get one because they are only issued online during normal business hours and not on weekends or holidays, something I didn’t plan for before first entering the city on a Saturday. I believe the normal fine was $20. It was give them all our cash or get towed, most likely to a chop shop.

[Lux Interior]

gadje wrote:
L1 is 120V, at least my PHEV with 120V is level 1 I think.

Level 1 is 120v & 1.2 kW max.

You will only add a few miles per hour of charging depending on the EV.

[kj]

Chargers at apartment complexes is not something that could be done, it is being done:



I took this in Nampa, Idaho, which is at the leading edge of technology. Very progressive ;-)

[kj]

Lux Interior wrote:
[quote=gadje]
L1 is 120V, at least my PHEV with 120V is level 1 I think.

Level 1 is 120v & 1.2 kW max.

You will only add a few miles per hour of charging depending on the EV.
I think I got 20% overnight at a hotel on the portable charger that came with my Tesla. My Fiat could get 50-60% overnight, but that's only 60miles ;-)

[freeradical]

Carnos Jax wrote:
[quote=Harbourmaster]
I'm in no rush to spend tens of thousands of dollars for a new electric vehicle when the old ICE vehicles I have are perfectly serviceable, and will be for a loooong time to come.

We have two ICE vehicles that see about 2000 miles each, annually.

Maybe you'd be better off just using Uber or Lyft? Likely save you money by not needing insurance.

[Carnos Jax]

Ran the numbers, doesn’t make any sense in my case…..you on the other hand it would make sense to, you should do it, unless money is trivial for you.

[DeusxMac]

macphanatic wrote:
Fire marshals and insurance companies are leery about charging stations in parking garages. Regardless of fire frequency, EV fires require 10's of thousands of gallons of water and hours/days to extinguish. Fire departments aren't equipped to get equipment into a garage or the burning vehicle out of the garage. ICE car fires can be controlled by standard fire sprinklers and extinguishment can be accomplished with one or two fire hoses.

Is it the CHARGING STATIONS catching fire that they’re worried about, or the EVs themselves?

The EVs are going to be in those parking garages whether there are charging stations in them or not.

[cbelt3]

Steve G. wrote:
more charging stations would increase EV sales.

The public is rightly leery.

It’s important to remember that most people do not live in single family homes with a garage where an individual EV charger can be installed.

It’s also important to remember that apartment building garages are not equipped with electrical power for EV charging. What IS often forgotten is that overnight EV charging can run at “Level 1” for most owners. So the power requirements are less.

It’s all a tough set of equations.

[Lux Interior]

kj wrote:
[quote=Lux Interior]
[quote=gadje]
L1 is 120V, at least my PHEV with 120V is level 1 I think.

Level 1 is 120v & 1.2 kW max.

You will only add a few miles per hour of charging depending on the EV.
I think I got 20% overnight at a hotel on the portable charger that came with my Tesla. My Fiat could get 50-60% overnight, but that's only 60miles ;-)
It all comes down to efficiency.

If you get 4 miles/kwh, you get 32 miles from eight hours of L1 charging.

I get 2 miles/kwh, so the same eight hours would only give me 16 miles.

Anyway I just needed to post this:

Oh Lord
Won't you buy me
A Mercedes Benz
My friends all drive Porsches
I must make amends
I work hard all my life
And it comes to no end
So Lord
Won't you buy me
A Mercedes Benz

[kj]

Lux Interior wrote:
[quote=kj]
[quote=Lux Interior]
[quote=gadje]
L1 is 120V, at least my PHEV with 120V is level 1 I think.

Level 1 is 120v & 1.2 kW max.

You will only add a few miles per hour of charging depending on the EV.
I think I got 20% overnight at a hotel on the portable charger that came with my Tesla. My Fiat could get 50-60% overnight, but that's only 60miles ;-)
It all comes down to efficiency.

If you get 4 miles/kwh, you get 32 miles from eight hours of L1 charging.

I get 2 miles/kwh, so the same eight hours would only give me 16 miles.

Anyway I just needed to post this:

Oh Lord
Won't you buy me
A Mercedes Benz
My friends all drive Porsches
I must make amends
I work hard all my life
And it comes to no end
So Lord
Won't you buy me
A Mercedes Benz
Since it was available (they had an outlet on every light post) and easy it gave me a little extra to go to breakfast before charging, and make the supercharging a little quicker. Just kind of a nice little free boost. I think having that possibility readily available would be pretty helpful, really. These ones were for engine block heaters, I think. But if I was short of cash, I could just plug in for a long time and hang out.