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Welcome to car talk! Matt's VW is in the shop for expensive repairs and he's pondering an EV
#21
special wrote:
WV reliability aside, I don't think VW makes spark plugs. They buy from Bosch, NGK, or other manufacturers. How did this happen?

tldr; there's speculation but nobody really knows why it happens

There's some speculation about counterfeit spark plugs https://www.ngkntk.com/newsroom/blog/emea/fake-or-not/

That said, I had bought them from a reputable seller. More info - https://eqtuning.com/blogs/technical-wri...park-plugs

Obviously I'm not sure what I'll have when all is said and done, but the transmission has been solid (yes, its a dsg and yes its maintained properly) and the engine never lost a drop of oil between changes. Up until this point it really hadn't given us much trouble.


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Based on reviews, I'm leaning toward the Ioniq 5 if we find ourselves in the market for a new car. Obviously I'd need to drive it and see if I like it.
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#22
chopper wrote:
Only seven years old and needs $6k or more in repair. Yea those VWs are a steadfast, well-made and reliable vehicle aren't they? The good thing is if you do this it won't have any more problems down the road. Oh, wait, it's a VW so you will be kicking for another major $$$ repair by mid-summer. Does it have DSG? Have you changed the fluid?

Stay classy chopper
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#23
Truth hurts doesn't it?

My buddy's import repair shop has been a near constant stream of VWs needing expensive repair and these real world experiences have made us (owner, techs, parts) nearly violent against the brand or people buying such poorly designed and expensive to repair vehicles. Meanwhile a Toyota or Honda goes 250k miles with just regular maintenance.
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#24
chopper wrote:
Truth hurts doesn't it?

You're just being an asshole, you've contributed nothing.

You're basically just pointing to a logo and laughing. I've seen people buy "car wisdom" reliable brands, watched the car self destruct early and buy the exact same thing because, after all, its a reliable brand.

None of which appears to have bearing on my circumstances unless someone can bring some understanding as to WHY this problem occurred.
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#25
chopper wrote:
Truth hurts doesn't it?

My buddy's import repair shop has been a near constant stream of VWs needing expensive repair and these real world experiences have made us (owner, techs, parts) nearly violent against the brand or people buying such poorly designed and expensive to repair vehicles. Meanwhile a Toyota or Honda goes 250k miles with just regular maintenance.

Anecdotally, at my shop we fix many more Toyota and Honda transmissions than VW transmissions. They (Toyota and Honda) generally don’t last 250000 miles. If they do, they are toast at that point, and more expensive to rebuild than to replace.

Have you priced Toyota or Honda transmissions? New or used?
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#26
mattkime wrote:
[quote=special]
WV reliability aside, I don't think VW makes spark plugs. They buy from Bosch, NGK, or other manufacturers. How did this happen?

tldr; there's speculation but nobody really knows why it happens

There's some speculation about counterfeit spark plugs https://www.ngkntk.com/newsroom/blog/emea/fake-or-not/

That said, I had bought them from a reputable seller. More info - https://eqtuning.com/blogs/technical-wri...park-plugs

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But the one that broke (missing ground strap) was probably the original (factory installed spark plug). Correct? so even if you bought a fake one now to troubleshoot, that still leaves the question how did this happened with an original, GENUINE spark plug. I have never heard of this happening before, must be 1 in a million changes this happens on a 7 year old plug with 70k miles on it.

Most owners manuals say to replaced at 90k-120k miles, at least on my Japanese and American cars. I never owned a VW so I don't know what they recommend, but I can't imagine you already replaced these before 70k and got a fake that caused the engine damage.
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#27
mattkime wrote:
Because we don’t have daily car commutes, about 40% of our driving consists of road trips.

In that case, you might want to stick with a gasser. Or possibly get two vehicles to split duty. Something like a used $12K Chevy Bolt for tooling around town and whatever (used) gasser for long trips.

Alternatively, you probably wouldn't want to go there (and they are passe these days), but you could think about a plug-in hybrid. The Toyota RAV4 Prime is really hard to find but very nice, or maybe a plug-in hybrid Ford Escape. There's also the Ford C-Max Energi (which I have and love) or the Ford Fusion Energi if you want a sedan. The plug-in hybrids have a very limited EV range (generally about 20 miles or less), but are limited only to the gas tank for long trips, plus still get better mileage than most gassers because they are hybrids.

Everything I have mentioned is used, but I don't know if you're thinking new or used.

For a new pure EV, the Ionic 5 sounds great. Other options are the Ford Mach-E, Chevy Equinox EV or similar.
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#28
special wrote:
But the one that broke (missing ground strap) was probably the original (factory installed spark plug). Correct? so even if you bought a fake one now to troubleshoot, that still leaves the question how did this happened with an original, GENUINE spark plug. I have never heard of this happening before, must be 1 in a million changes this happens on a 7 year old plug with 70k miles on it.

Its 40k miles for my generation VW Golf, it wasn't original.

The problem is a rare occurrence but not unknown.
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#29
AllGold wrote:
In that case, you might want to stick with a gasser. Or possibly get two vehicles to split duty. Something like a used $12K Chevy Bolt for tooling around town and whatever (used) gasser for long trips.

Yeah, I'm coming back around to that, stick to gas for now. I'd definitely get a Bolt if we needed a second car. My thoughts turn to how cars age and in the long run battery age becomes a concern. I'm not sure how I should weigh that compared to ICE but I think it does tilt slightly toward ICE.
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